Boris Johnson

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Has the gig, voted in by 0.2% of the population.
Heaven help us from this racist, moronic buffoon.
He now rules over piccannies with watermelon smiles, Muslims dressed as letterboxes looking like bank robbers, and has told too many lies to list.
Being PM is better on his CV than being fired from 2 jobs for lying, or arranging for a journalist to be beaten up.
Luckily , many Tories hate him enough to quit the party and cross the house.
This could be an exciting week in politics .

Tommy Monk wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I'm merely asking, tommy....where are those guys who voted to leave the EU, now?  The Tories can't do it.  The Libs and Labor won't do it.

Looks like the Brexit folks tucked tail and ran.

The british people voted to leave... but parliament has too many weaselly traitors in it who want to deny the democratic vote of the british people!!!

Is this like your theory of a self-actuating "nature"?  Tommy, nothing happens without someone impelling it to happen.  Brexit didn't just ipso facto happen on its own, because there were conditions precedent to be performed.  If the people who voted for Brexit have left the building, no one else is going to do their job for them.  As I said, three cycles of Tories haven't been able to do it, and the Libs and Labour certainly won't do it...they are on the other side.

Somebody took the motor and your truck can't move on its own, partner.

Boris is a proven, habitual, serial liar, so why should breaking the law of the land be a problem to him.
This is what the self entitled elite such as Farage Boris, Mogg do.
Boris Johnson short of options as rebels vow to secure Brexit delay

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/06/boris-johnson-short-of-options-as-rebels-vow-to-secure-brexit-delay?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Andy wrote:Boris is a proven, habitual, serial liar, so why should breaking the law of the land be a problem to him.
This is what the self entitled elite such as Farage Boris, Mogg do.
Boris Johnson short of options as rebels vow to secure Brexit delay

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/06/boris-johnson-short-of-options-as-rebels-vow-to-secure-brexit-delay?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

We discussed the uproar if Corbyn had said the things Farage did about the Royals.

Can you imagine the righteous indignation if a Labour politician slouched across the front benches as Mogg did?

Can you remember how May was slammed as weak for failing so many votes; yet Johnson does not receive the same condemnation?

Absolute hypocrisy from the Tory Right AND those cap doffing morons who support them

+1.

And the response from the rw here - The silence of the lambs.

Your both fucking idiots and Commies to boot, Les, you don't live here, your opinion is worthless.Andy, you want to be ruled over by the EU ? Well go for it, and end up with a Communist PM still doing the EU's bidding. Your too thick to see what's going on here , A United States of Europe and Andy, a supposedly British Man is happy with it. I'M Not , and 17Million + are not either !

Original Quill wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


The british people voted to leave... but parliament has too many weaselly traitors in it who want to deny the democratic vote of the british people!!!

Is this like your theory of a self-actuating "nature"?  Tommy, nothing happens without someone impelling it to happen.  Brexit didn't just ipso facto happen on its own, because there were conditions precedent to be performed.  If the people who voted for Brexit have left the building, no one else is going to do their job for them.  As I said, three cycles of Tories haven't been able to do it, and the Libs and Labour certainly won't do it...they are on the other side.

Somebody took the motor and your truck can't move on its own, partner.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about!

nicko wrote:Your both fucking idiots and Commies to boot,  Les, you don't live  here,  your opinion is worthless.Andy, you   want to be ruled over by the EU ? Well go for it, and end up with a Communist PM still doing the EU's bidding.  Your too thick to see what's going on here , A United States of Europe and Andy, a supposedly British Man is happy with it. I'M Not , and 17Million + are not either !

I may return to the UK, and all my family live there. It isn't worthless but I'll forgive your arrogance in saying so. My family and I will have to face the consequences of Brexit a lot longer than many of those supporting it will

And stop with this frankly stupid narrative of opposing Brexit being somehow anti-British and anyone supporting Labour being a communist - it is a stupid thing to say and just demonstrates the ability to regurgitate tabloid BS.

A United State of Europe, eh? And who first coined THAT term? I'll give you a clue, his grandson was just sacked by the tub of lard we now call a PM

Nicko, Tommy, Fred and co have peculiarly warped and self-serving notions of exactly what terms such as "democracy", "majority", (and even "commie" and "traitor"..) actually mean...

Britain has over 66 million people; over 50 million potential voters..
Less than 18 million voted for 'Brexit'.  Since when has 37% of eligible voters constituted a "majority" ?

Tommy claims that the 37 % equates to "the will of the British electorate";
Nicko reckons that over 60% of Brits are commie lefty Corbyn-voting traitorist dogs, and should all be shot if they dare to set foot out on the street;
While Fred is becoming increasingly upset that none of you peasants on here deign to recognise his undoubtedly superior high-bred intelligence, political nous and obvious 'class'..

Its as if Nicko and Tommy are still trying to reinact the war years of39-45. They still hate Europe, and would rather fight with them than trade with them.
In their eyes, Europe is filled with foreigners who want to come here to rape and pillage, take all our jobs and commit endless horrendous crimes.
For their information, if they have forgotten , the war ended 74 years ago and we have built up massive trade links and wonderful friendships with them through free movement.
That will of course end if the little Englanders here get their own way.
The reality is, most Brexiteers are elderly and middle class, who  as Les correctly said, won't be around long enough to witness the disaster a hard Brexit would be.
But their families will have to live with their legacy, and will probably hate them for it.

So speaks a traitorous Commie and fully fledged Marxist !

'Wolfie wrote:

Nicko, Tommy, Fred and co have peculiarly warped and self-serving notions of exactly what terms such as "democracy", "majority", (and even "commie" and "traitor"..) actually mean...

Britain has over 66 million people; over 50 million potential voters..
Less than 18 million voted for 'Brexit'.  Since when has 37% of eligible voters constituted a "majority" ?

Tommy claims that the 37 % equates to "the will of the British electorate";
Nicko reckons that over 60% of Brits are commie lefty Corbyn-voting traitorist dogs, and should all be shot if they dare to set foot out on the street;
While Fred is becoming increasingly upset that none of you peasants on here deign to recognise his undoubtedly superior high-bred intelligence, political nous and obvious 'class'..

Even less voted remain...


The votes were counted... the result was to leave the EU...


And Andy... we can still trade with the EU without being in the EU!!!


Or didn't you know that...!?

We will pay import duty on goods from the EU, Twat.

And the opposite will happen, or didn't you think of that,any how I will say no more till it's settled one way or 'tother. Note to Andy ,you'll feel such a geranium if it doesn't go the way you wanted !

Tommy Monk wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Is this like your theory of a self-actuating "nature"?  Tommy, nothing happens without someone impelling it to happen.  Brexit didn't just ipso facto happen on its own, because there were conditions precedent to be performed.  If the people who voted for Brexit have left the building, no one else is going to do their job for them.  As I said, three cycles of Tories haven't been able to do it, and the Libs and Labour certainly won't do it...they are on the other side.

Somebody took the motor and your truck can't move on its own, partner.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about!

Stomp your foot. Curse at the rain. Throw a temper tantrum if you like. You still aren't going to get your Brexit. There's nobody to enforce it, dummy. You can look around for scapegoats if you want, but any PM has got to favor something before s/he can be said to own it. No one in Parliament wants to own the trash heap known as Brexit.

Nigel Farage abandoned you. If he'd stuck around and developed a plan, he could then mobilize the votes. But he didn't. Perhaps he did the math. Perhaps he foresaw the disaster it was going to create in the British economy. If so, he was smart to get out of town, and remain a fond memory rather than a dreaded nightmare.

No one in power wanted it, and thus no one in power wants to own it. Tommy, did you ever study the concept of inertia? Something "retains its state of rest or its velocity along a straight line so long as it is not acted upon by an external force." Dictionary.com That's a law of nature. The "external force" is gone. Farage got his hat and headed out the door. There's no external force to make it happen.

nicko wrote: And the opposite will happen, or didn't you think of that,any how I will say no more till it's settled one way or 'tother. Note to Andy ,you'll feel such a geranium if it doesn't go the way you wanted !

Your government will collect taxes...dreaded taxes. (I thot you were a tory, fgs. ) Taxes are a disincentive for business. Britain will become a bad place to do business. Things go from bad to worse.

Don't you guys have any 'future orientation'?

nicko wrote: And the opposite will happen, or didn't you think of that,any how I will say no more till it's settled one way or 'tother. Note to Andy ,you'll feel such a geranium if it doesn't go the way you wanted !

The EU don't DEPEND on our goods, especially at the extra cost of import duty.
There are 26 other EU counties they can trade with duty free.
We will be low down the list

And now Rudd has resigned from the Conservative party, hinting many others will follow.


Amber Rudd resigns from Cabinet and the Tories in furious blast at Boris’s Brexit policy claiming there’s ‘no evidence’ PM wants a deal

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9884767/amber-rudd-resigns-brexit-boris-johnson/

Oh dear. Enjoy your weekend Boris.

Stop spamming ,it's against the rules ,[and your getting obsessed]

nicko wrote:Stop spamming ,it's against the rules ,[and your getting obsessed]

If you have neither the facts, nor the principles on you side...attack the speaker!!

How on earth is posting in the Boris thread that one of his key ministers has just resigned, accusing him of not negotiating for a deal, in fact saying in essence he is a liar.
Posting your unrelated drivel on here is spamming.
Stick to the thread, Rambs.

Andy wrote:We will pay import duty on goods from the EU, Twat.

The future trade tariffs are what we are supposed to be negotiating in the 2 years that was set out by article 50...


The current "deal" on offer from the EU is 650 pages of bureaucratic waffle that just keeps us tied in to being subservient to the EU... with absolutely no mention of any future tariffs on trade between us!!!


We currently already have tariffs set on imports from outside the EU... set by the EU... and where we do most of our trade... and the tariff money currently collected is sent to the EU!!!


We are much better off by being out of the EU and for tariffs collected to be going into our government as tax revenue... and of course by being outside the EU we can then sort out mutually beneficial trade deals with countries in the rest of the world that we already do most of our trade with, and that would mean increase in imports from them at cheaper costs to uk businesses and consumers as well as a boost on our exports to many of these countries too which is good for uk businesses and uk workers!!!

Andy wrote:

nicko wrote: And the opposite will happen, or didn't you think of that,any how I will say no more till it's settled one way or 'tother. Note to Andy ,you'll feel such a geranium if it doesn't go the way you wanted !

The EU don't DEPEND on our goods, especially at the extra cost of import duty.
There are 26 other EU counties they can trade with duty free.
We will be low down the list

Why this isn't obvious, I don't know.

The idiots think Kenya, Botswana and Fiji will make up for some lost trade with France, Germany and Spain. Or Australia, whose goods only have to travel across the entire globe...

Original Quill wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


You obviously don't know what you're talking about!

Stomp your foot.  Curse at the rain.  Throw a temper tantrum if you like.  You still aren't going to get your Brexit.  There's nobody to enforce it, dummy.  You can look around for scapegoats if you want, but any PM has got to favor something before s/he can be said to own it.  No one in Parliament wants to own the trash heap known as Brexit.

Nigel Farage abandoned you.  If he'd stuck around and developed a plan, he could then mobilize the votes.  But he didn't.  Perhaps he did the math.  Perhaps he foresaw the disaster it was going to create in the British economy.  If so, he was smart to get out of town, and remain a fond memory rather than a dreaded nightmare.

No one in power wanted it, and thus no one in power wants to own it.  Tommy, did you ever study the concept of inertia?  Something "retains its state of rest or its velocity along a straight line so long as it is not acted upon by an external force." Dictionary.com  That's a law of nature.  The "external force" is gone.  Farage got his hat and headed out the door.  There's no external force to make it happen.

I don't know what Micky mouse news sources you are listening too... but we are leaving the EU...!!!


If the current shower of shit in our parliament refuse to deliver the democratic result of the referendum... then we will certainly not be voting them back in at the next election... but instead voting in people who will uphold and deliver on us leaving the EU!!!


And just in case you didn't know... Nigel Farage is the leader of the Brexit Party which were huge winners in the recent EU elections...

Eilzel wrote:

Andy wrote:
The EU don't DEPEND on our goods, especially at the extra cost of import duty.
There are 26 other EU counties they can trade with duty free.
We will be low down the list

Why this isn't obvious, I don't know.

The idiots think Kenya, Botswana and Fiji will make up for some lost trade with France, Germany and Spain. Or Australia, whose goods only have to travel across the entire globe...

And we don't depend on exports to the EU...


BUT A LOT OF THE EU DOES DEPEND ON US BUYING STUFF FROM THEM!!!


AND IF THEY WONT NEGOTIATE ON A SENSIBLE TARIFF ARRANGEMENT... THEN IT MAY WELL RESULT IN US BUYING MUCH LESS FROM THEM AND MORE FROM ELSEWHERE FOR CHEAPER INSTEAD...!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the referendum actually held to gauge the wishes of the British public?

It was never actually written into the referendum that a vote to leave would force Parliament to take action, was it?

I know a lot of people don't want to hear this, but I am pretty sure that Parliament was never obliged to take any action after the referendum.

Ben Reilly wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the referendum actually held to gauge the wishes of the British public?

It was never actually written into the referendum that a vote to leave would force Parliament to take action, was it?

I know a lot of people don't want to hear this, but I am pretty sure that Parliament was never obliged to take any action after the referendum.

No it wasn’t obliged but you don’t take a vote and ignore the majority.

Clutching at straws Les...!

eddie wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the referendum actually held to gauge the wishes of the British public?

It was never actually written into the referendum that a vote to leave would force Parliament to take action, was it?

I know a lot of people don't want to hear this, but I am pretty sure that Parliament was never obliged to take any action after the referendum.

No it wasn’t obliged but you don’t take a vote and ignore the majority.

Well, I do strongly believe that elected politicians should be in the business of enacting the wishes of the people.

And as someone who voted for Clinton in 2016 and saw her win the popular vote, I understand the frustration of winning an election and yet losing because of legalese bullshit. I'm just saying that Cameron did not actually make the promise that anything would be done either way.

It was weak tea from the outset if you ask me -- I know that if I'd been presented with the opportunity to vote, but it was really only a chance to express how I felt rather than something that would be enacted, I'd feel cheated.

Tommy Monk wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

Andy wrote:
The EU don't DEPEND on our goods, especially at the extra cost of import duty.
There are 26 other EU counties they can trade with duty free.
We will be low down the list

Why this isn't obvious, I don't know.

The idiots think Kenya, Botswana and Fiji will make up for some lost trade with France, Germany and Spain. Or Australia, whose goods only have to travel across the entire globe...

And we don't depend on exports to the EU...


BUT A LOT OF THE EU DOES DEPEND ON US BUYING STUFF FROM THEM!!!


AND IF THEY WONT NEGOTIATE ON A SENSIBLE TARIFF ARRANGEMENT... THEN IT MAY WELL RESULT IN US BUYING MUCH LESS FROM THEM AND MORE FROM ELSEWHERE FOR CHEAPER INSTEAD...!

The EU is not one nation. The loss of free trade with our one nation will not seriously harm 26 individual states (Ireland, perhaps, not the rest).

Our one nation WILL be affected by loss of free trade with ALL 26 of our closest neighbours.

You see how one nation will take a hit harder than 26 sharing the hit?

Ben Reilly wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the referendum actually held to gauge the wishes of the British public?

It was never actually written into the referendum that a vote to leave would force Parliament to take action, was it?

I know a lot of people don't want to hear this, but I am pretty sure that Parliament was never obliged to take any action after the referendum.

It was advisory, yes. And we have a political system where we vote for the presumed best people to run our country. But obviously the descendants or aristocracy and cap doffing tabloid readers know better.

Tommy Monk wrote:I don't know what Micky mouse news sources you are listening too... but we are leaving the EU...!!!

If the current shower of shit in our parliament refuse to deliver the democratic result of the referendum... then we will certainly not be voting them back in at the next election... but instead voting in people who will uphold and deliver on us leaving the EU!!!

And just in case you didn't know... Nigel Farage is the leader of the Brexit Party which were huge winners in the recent EU elections...

A lot of tall talk, tommy, but no delivery.  You lost it when you lost your army.

Stomp your foot, again...it's fun watching you.

So Boris has now lost Amber Rudd
A lady he thought was his bud.
But she has vented her wrath
Saying "enough is enough"
And now he's after her blood.

Amber Rudd is a "remainer" good riddance !

Ben Reilly wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the referendum actually held to gauge the wishes of the British public?

It was never actually written into the referendum that a vote to leave would force Parliament to take action, was it?

I know a lot of people don't want to hear this, but I am pretty sure that Parliament was never obliged to take any action after the referendum.

well, apparently, not now it seems, but you listen very carefully to what David Cameron says, Ben.

He was our PM at the time and this is what he said


https://twitter.com/stoner1968/status/1170624796947877888

Andy, I think you're limmericks are crazy good.

I could sit and think for hours and not produce anything half so good

I don't get how you just reel them off one after the other. You should put them in a book

great talent

Rudd was always going sooner or later
As she couldn't support a far right traitor
Poor Boris has got himself in a fix
Hoping to keep up with Cummings tricks
And trying to like her rather than hate her.

Amber walked in to find Boris bumming
At the end of his cock was Dominic Cumming
She gasped and let out a very loud shriek
And told his future looked very bleak
Because most of his speeches were completely mind numbing.

gelico wrote:

Andy, I think you're limmericks are crazy good.

I could sit and think for hours and not produce anything half so good

I don't get how you just reel them off one after the other.  You should put them in a book

great talent

I appreciate the praise, especially from Gel
But they're easy 'cos it's all gone to hell.
If I run out of subjects it'll be a mean feat
But I won't copy others, I refuse to cheat
So I'll dip into my brain which is a bottomless well.

Remainers in parliament just want to keep delaying us leaving the EU so they can keep up their project fear campaign and then reverse brexit entirely!

We've got poor old Tom on the run
For his continued support of the Hun
He adores Cummings the extremist
Who spends lots of time pissed
Spewing hatred and bile just for fun.

Boris knows he's made a right rickett
Trusting Cummings who is not the full ticket
Every time he opens his mouth
Boris's ratings drop further south
And blaming Corbyn just isn't cricket.

Wait till the next general election Andy... and we'll see who's laughing then...!

Apparently Tommy has found some humour
But it turned out to be an unfounded rumour
He rants with great might
About how great is the far right
But in Britain they are an unwanted tumour.

There is nothing far right about delivering the democratic will of the british people by leaving the EU!


It is you remoaners who are ruining this country and democracy by refusing to abide by democracy!!!

Tommy is getting confused
Mainly because he's been used.
By the growing far right
And we can all see his plight.
To admit he is wrong would leave him quite bruised

My poems are not hit or miss
They are designed to take the right piss
Out of Rambo and Tom
Whose policies would bomb
So we can never make up and kiss

Tommy Monk wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Is this like your theory of a self-actuating "nature"?  Tommy, nothing happens without someone impelling it to happen.  Brexit didn't just ipso facto happen on its own, because there were conditions precedent to be performed.  If the people who voted for Brexit have left the building, no one else is going to do their job for them.  As I said, three cycles of Tories haven't been able to do it, and the Libs and Labour certainly won't do it...they are on the other side.

Somebody took the motor and your truck can't move on its own, partner.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about!

Obviously, your's is the plan that is not working. Ergo: I know more than you.

Tommy Monk wrote:

There is nothing far right about delivering the democratic will of the british people by leaving the EU!

It is you remoaners who are ruining this country and democracy by refusing to abide by democracy!!!

So, you wouldn't mind if all Scotland, No. Ireland, and Greater London had their democratic will, as well, would you tommy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum

What the 'leavers' are moaning about is a return to the UK of a gone day, when GB had an empire.  Today, it has no more resources, nor sources of resources.

The MP’s realize that and they are striving for survivability, not even past glory.  Glory is no longer yours, tommy.  You’re just another small country.