Fury as High Court judge says it's a 'fundamental human right' for a man to have sex with his wife as he hears case of whether woman with learning difficulties is capable of giving consent

A senior judge has provoked outrage by saying it is a ‘fundamental human right’ for a man to have sex with his wife.

Mr Justice Hayden made the comments during a preliminary hearing in a case heard by the Court of Protection, over whether a woman with learning difficulties had the ability to consent to intercourse with her husband.

Social workers fear she no longer has the mental capacity to give consent.

Mr Justice Hayden said: ‘I cannot think of any more obviously fundamental human right than the right of a man to have sex with his wife – and the right of the State to monitor that.’

His comments enraged Labour MP Thangam Debbonaire, who said they ‘legitimise misogyny and hatred’.

She said: ‘No man in the UK has such a legal right to insist on sex.’

Miss Debbonaire referenced the Sexual Offences Act 2003, saying ‘no capacity to give consent does not remove consent’.

The judge has ordered nobody in the case be identified while they appear before the court in London.

The husband had pledged to no longer sleep with his wife, but Mr Justice Hayden said he wanted to hear from lawyers before making a ruling.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6879993/Fury-judge-tells-court-fundamental-human-right-man-sex-wife.html

We have a Supreme Court justice who holds that gang rape of a female is acceptable. In fact, he gets indignant if you disagree with him.

This is like being transported back to the dark ages.

What about a womans fundamental human right to say No?

I always say "I'v got a Headache love" !

Disgusting man. Fundamental right my ass. Both the Judge and the husband need a good slapping.

The senior judge seems to have had a senior moment.

Hard to judge when no details whatsoever have been released.

There was no problem when they got married so if there's a problem now does that mean she has mentally deteriorated?

Is she almost comatose?  In that case sexual activity would be gross.

Till more info is known,  it's hard to say ……...

Cass wrote:Disgusting man. Fundamental right my ass. Both the Judge and the husband need a good slapping.

Agree.

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Cass wrote:Disgusting man. Fundamental right my ass. Both the Judge and the husband need a good slapping.

Agree.

Agree also.

If the wife, through mental deteriation  is now  incapable of giving consent, that should surely be considered rape if the husband insists on having sex with her.

The only difference between this woman and the comatosed woman in a care facility in America who was raped and had a baby, is this woman is married to her rapist.

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Cass wrote:Disgusting man. Fundamental right my ass. Both the Judge and the husband need a good slapping.

Agree.

Hey SM X

Syl wrote:

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Agree.

Agree also.

If the wife, through mental deteriation  is now  incapable of giving consent, that should surely be considered rape if the husband insists on having sex with her.

The only difference between this woman and the comatosed woman in a care facility in America who was raped and had a baby, is this woman is married to her rapist.

Absolutely

Cass wrote:

Syl wrote:

Agree also.

If the wife, through mental deteriation  is now  incapable of giving consent, that should surely be considered rape if the husband insists on having sex with her.

The only difference between this woman and the comatosed woman in a care facility in America who was raped and had a baby, is this woman is married to her rapist.

Absolutely

Thanks Cass.
Did you read about the woman in the care facility who gave birth to a child, one of the carers was charged with rape.
There was a thread about it on here at the time....some actually argued it may not have been rape.

Syl wrote:

Cass wrote:

Absolutely

Thanks Cass.
Did you read about the woman in the care facility who gave birth to a child, one of the carers was charged with rape.
There was a thread about it on here at the time....some actually argued it may not have been rape.

God yes. Awful. Sadly in my state. My son and his gf who are both in the medical field are both furious and upset. It’s just so unreal.

Cass wrote:

Syl wrote:

Thanks Cass.
Did you read about the woman in the care facility who gave birth to a child, one of the carers was charged with rape.
There was a thread about it on here at the time....some actually argued it may not have been rape.

God yes. Awful. Sadly in my state. My son and his gf who are both in the medical field are both furious and upset. It’s just so unreal.

It was heartbreaking.
God knows how long that girl was being abused...or even by how many.
It seemed that only after she had given birth she received any kind of safety. It was odd that no one, including her family, noticed that she was pregnant.
If I remember the news only broke days after she had given birth.

What's going on, there seems to be a sinister move backwards
happening. Brunei and its implementing draconian sharia law, states in the US trying to overturn abortion laws now this judge with his fundamental right for a man to have sex with his wife.
We need to be more vigilant and vocal about keeping hard won rights.

Vintage wrote: What's going on, there seems to be a sinister move backwards
happening. Brunei and its implementing draconian sharia law, states in the US trying to overturn abortion laws now this judge with his fundamental right for a man to have sex with his wife.
We need to be more vigilant and vocal about keeping hard won rights.

Spot on

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