Hundreds of Muslim parents protest school in Britain over LGBT curriculum

by HoratioTarr Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:43 am

Hundreds of Muslim parents and their children – dressed up as superheroes – protested outside a primary school in Britain on Thursday against planned lessons on LGBT rights.

More than 200 protesters organized the demonstration against Parkfield Community School in Birmingham over the school program called “No Outsiders” that includes teachings about homosexuality, including same-sex relationships and marriages, and challenges homophobia.

The organizers accused assistant head Andrew Moffatt, who is gay, of promoting LGBT rights against the wishes of the parents, who carried placards reading “Say no to sexualizing children” and “respect and be respected.”

https://www.foxnews.com/world/hundreds-of-Muslim-parents-protest-school-in-britain-over-lgbt-curriculum

by HoratioTarr Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:45 am

For a bit of balance it's not just Muslims

by Eilzel Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:05 pm

Saying it sexuslises children is BS.

Ask any of these parents if they plan on teaching their kids it's ok to be gay and I guarantee you'll be answered in the negative. Proving why kids DO need to be taught this stuff in schools.

by Syl Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:27 pm

Parkfield community school was mentioned in the other thread a few days ago, 98% of the pupils are Muslim.

I dont think sexuality should be up for discussion when kids are 5 year olds, it's far too young to label people, just teach kindness and acceptance to all.

I think 10 year olds are capable of understanding, and it would prepare them for senior school too.

The problem with the Parkfield parents, are they protesting because their children are too young, or will they not want their children to be taught acceptance for LGBT's at any age?

by nicko Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:31 pm

They do need to be taught it, but at 5 years old,that's the bullshit !

by Guest Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:02 pm

Eilzel wrote:Saying it sexuslises children is BS.

Ask any of these parents if they plan on teaching their kids it's ok to be gay and I guarantee you'll be answered in the negative. Proving why kids DO need to be taught this stuff in schools.

And yet these parents will use fear in order to indoctrinate their children with religious bullshit

I bet they dont allow their children to be children, when it comes to Islam

We even see homophobic Christians are joining them

Of course the arguments made here are bullshit

Nobody is being sexualized, but shown to be inclusive to all walks of life

Its the Christians and Muslims uniting on a common cause, hate of homosexuals

I mean anyone, who think understanding someone has two fathers as parents is somehow sexualizing a child, is being blatantly ignorant.

What you have here is some religious people trying to impose their Illiberal beliefs, over our Liberal vales and laws.

by Eilzel Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:21 pm

nicko wrote:They do need to be taught it, but at 5 years old,that's the bullshit !

Pay attention nicko, no one is being 'taught' about sexuality at 5.

This is such a repetitive argument. Everything to be said was said in the other thread.

Syl, it is blatantly obvious these morons don't want their kids being told that gay is OK, period.

by Syl Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:30 pm

Eilzel wrote:
nicko wrote:They do need to be taught it, but at 5 years old,that's the bullshit !

Pay attention nicko, no one is being 'taught' about sexuality at 5.

This is such a repetitive argument. Everything to be said was said in the other thread.

Syl, it is blatantly obvious these morons don't want their kids being told that gay is OK, period.

When their kids are of secondary school age they will have no choice, the opportunity to opt out wont be allowed as it is at present in primary schools.

One woman said if her child was ever forced to have compulsory classes she would go home...wherever home is...and that would be her choice.

by Guest Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:34 pm

Syl wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

Pay attention nicko, no one is being 'taught' about sexuality at 5.

This is such a repetitive argument. Everything to be said was said in the other thread.

Syl, it is blatantly obvious these morons don't want their kids being told that gay is OK, period.

When their kids are of secondary school age they will have no choice, the opportunity to opt out wont be allowed as it is at present in primary schools.

One woman said if her child was ever forced to have compulsory classes she would go home...wherever home is...and that would be her choice.

Its clear they are trying to get all lessons on LGTB issues stopped being taught in all schools

Just read their own leaflets

https://twitter.com/Jasperbunny/status/1102991461975494657

by nicko Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:01 pm

Les, they are going to be "taught" it, that's what it's all about, don't be thick !

by Eilzel Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:04 pm

nicko wrote:Les, they are going to be "taught" it, that's what it's all about, don't be thick !

Go beyond the sensation!

What are they ACTUALLY going to be taught at 5?

by Guest Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:24 pm

Eilzel wrote:
nicko wrote:Les, they are going to be "taught" it, that's what it's all about, don't be thick !

Go beyond the sensation!

What are they ACTUALLY going to be taught at 5?

that being gay is ok, i presume

according to the ranting Muslim, they are actively and aggressively promoting it (by whatever form that takes)

by Guest Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:38 pm

Watching the various special interest groups ripping each other apart is pure bliss

If it's not the hairy legged lesbian man hating feminists c*nts hating on the trannies

It's the Muslims hating on the gays.

The collapse of their progressive intersectional insanity gets me hard

by Raggamuffin Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:57 pm

Where were the Christians?

I don't see the point of any of this. The kids get told at school that being gay is fine, and then they go home and their parents tell them it's not.

by Raggamuffin Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:00 pm

Syl wrote:Parkfield community school was mentioned in the other thread a few days ago, 98% of the pupils are Muslim.

I dont think sexuality should be up for discussion when kids are 5 year olds, it's far too young to label people, just teach kindness and acceptance to all.

I think 10 year olds are capable of understanding, and it would prepare them for senior school too.

The problem with the Parkfield parents, are they protesting because their children are too young, or will they not want their children to be taught acceptance for LGBT's at any age?

It's against their beliefs, so any age I guess.

by Guest Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:15 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Where were the Christians?

I don't see the point of any of this. The kids get told at school that being gay is fine, and then they go home and their parents tell them it's not.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/03/07/religious-conservatives-protest-lgbt-lessons-birmingham-school/

Also some orthodox Jews as well

by HoratioTarr Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:16 pm

Eilzel wrote:
nicko wrote:Les, they are going to be "taught" it, that's what it's all about, don't be thick !

Go beyond the sensation!

What are they ACTUALLY going to be taught at 5?

So what's the point? Kids learn bigotry from home, that's where it starts and ends. Doesn't matter how many LGBT classes you shove down their throats from five years old. If the parents are racist or homophobic then that's what they'll grow up believing. All this will do is confuse the poor little buggers. Let them be kids free from any kind of awareness of sexuality until an age when they can fully grasp it.

We've got kids in primary school fretting about their gender. It's fucking ridiculous.

by Guest Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:20 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

Go beyond the sensation!

What are they ACTUALLY going to be taught at 5?

So what's the point? Kids learn bigotry from home, that's where it starts and ends. Doesn't matter how many LGBT classes you shove down their throats from five years old. If the parents are racist or homophobic then that's what they'll grow up believing. All this will do is confuse the poor little buggers. Let them be kids free from any kind of awareness of sexuality until an age when they can fully grasp it.

We've got kids in primary school fretting about their gender. It's fucking ridiculous.

Really?

I was raised a Catholic and was taught to be anti-homoseuxal. Where my views changed on seeing someone homosexual abused at school

So if bigotry starts at home, what is the best way to counter that?

To teach children, that we can be inclusive to all

So how is that confusing?

So explain to me, how is gay parents confusing to children, anymore than religious beliefs?

by Eilzel Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:51 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
nicko wrote:Les, they are going to be "taught" it, that's what it's all about, don't be thick !

Go beyond the sensation!

What are they ACTUALLY going to be taught at 5?

So what's the point? Kids learn bigotry from home, that's where it starts and ends. Doesn't matter how many LGBT classes you shove down their throats from five years old. If the parents are racist or homophobic then that's what they'll grow up believing. All this will do is confuse the poor little buggers. Let them be kids free from any kind of awareness of sexuality until an age when they can fully grasp it.

We've got kids in primary school fretting about their gender. It's fucking ridiculous.

Completely wrong.

So kids only get their heads filled with homophobia and nothing at school to combat this? That'll lead to gay hating bullies and suicidal teenagers - great job.

At 5 this would literally involve a few kids books featuring gay characters. Hardly earth shaking and not 'confusing'.

At 5 years old kids understand a lot more than we give credit for. A Muslim kid and a Buddhist kid might know they believe in different gods, for instance, it isn't brain crushing.

by Tommy Monk Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:45 am

It's not "inclusion" or "equality"... it's INDOCTRINATION!!!

Leave the children alone!!!

by Eilzel Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:49 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

It's not "inclusion" or "equality"... it's INDOCTRINATION!!!

Leave the children alone!!!

Yawn...

Waffle...

(I'm practicing high quality tommybot debate, am I doing OK?) Laughing

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:50 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

It's not "inclusion" or "equality"... it's INDOCTRINATION!!!

Leave the children alone!!!

Maybe they should leave their children alone then Tommy and stop using religious fear based nonsense on them

Its the very reason they are against inclusion and this is the UK, where we stand by Liberal views on inclusion, which even means teaching people to be inclusive to Muslims and people like you

This must be a dilema for you though Tommy, having to support Muslims here?

Where some have thretened to leave and also because they cannot abide with homosexuality

If only the EDL had allied themselves to the LGBT eh?

by Ben Reilly Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:40 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

It's not "inclusion" or "equality"... it's INDOCTRINATION!!!

Leave the children alone!!!

If what you're saying is true, then I'm sure tons of actual proof will come out that teachers are telling their students to be gay. Seriously, there's no way that could be kept under wraps.

by eddie Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:44 am

Okay there’s no real reason to be having an LBGT lesson in between maths and English for seven year olds....but!

Children should just be aware, either by passing comment at “talk time” in school or when they have reading time, that all types of consensual love are perfectly fine.

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:50 am

eddie wrote:Okay there’s no real reason to be having an LBGT lesson in between maths and English for seven year olds....but!

Children should just be aware, either by passing comment at “talk time” in school or when they have reading time, that all types of consensual love are perfectly fine.

Of course there is every reason to teach inclusion in school and this case demostrates why it is necessary.

As the problem is some parents teach their kids crap all the time

Nobody brings into question how these parents will indoctrinate their children with religious based fear. Using a hell fire to make their children fear a mythical deity. Which then leads to other poor based beliefs off this, which calls for the dislike of homosexuals

Hence schools need to counter such hateful views, with inclusion

by eddie Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:01 am

Didge, I completely teach my children inclusion. Nothing is off the table or taboo in my communication with my children.

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:06 am

eddie wrote:Didge, I completely teach my children inclusion. Nothing is off the table or taboo in my communication with my children.

And how does that then help teach other kids, who are not taught by their parents?

by Ben Reilly Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:10 am

I'd love to hear of one person who would have become gay were it not for someone teaching them that it's so-called wrong. I guarantee they don't exist. You can't teach someone to be straight or gay.

by Eilzel Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:18 am

eddie wrote:Okay there’s no real reason to be having an LBGT lesson in between maths and English for seven year olds....but!

Children should just be aware, either by passing comment at “talk time” in school or when they have reading time, that all types of consensual love are perfectly fine.

It would be useful if there was clarity on this.

Nowhere have I seen there being 'LGBT lessons'.

Regardless, some kids are getting NO mention of LGBT matters at home, or worse, actively being taught by parents that it's a bad thing.

^Indeed, Ben, the idea LGBT lives being raised in school leading to people 'becoming gay' is idiotic - like all the parents involved here.

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:05 am

Why do kids need to be taught this??

For decades The gay mafia have been jumping feet first down the throat of anyone and everyone who didn't immediately tug the forelock.

Its highly unlikely that there is anyone left alive who hasn't had the "gays ok" club smashed over their heads, and if they have missed out on that particular treat, they are probably living in Saudi Arabia.

Is there any need to add extra lessons on this???

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:11 am

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:I'd love to hear of one person who would have become gay were it not for someone teaching them that it's so-called wrong. I guarantee they don't exist. You can't teach someone to be straight or gay.

Be interested to see if anyone will attempt to answer this

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:46 am

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:I'd love to hear of one person who would have become gay were it not for someone teaching them that it's so-called wrong. I guarantee they don't exist. You can't teach someone to be straight or gay.

Yes you can, the same way you can teach a child to be religious but they go on to rebel and become atheist in later life.

What I want to know is why gays demand to be treated like everyone else when they don't act like everyone else??

Gays

"I want to be treated like everyone else"

Also gays

"I want special laws and privileges in society that mark me out from everyone else"

gay pride parades

"Look at me I'm gay"

Also gay pride parades

"stop looking at me you fucking homophobe"

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:54 am

Never laughed so much in all my life and it shows smelly clearly does not understand the science and neurology around attraction. Laughing

I would love for smelly to back up his claim with scientific evidence, that people can turn on and off being gay or hetrosexual...

by nicko Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:01 am

How about Bi-sexual ? they can turn it on or off when desired !

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:06 am

nicko wrote:How about Bi-sexual ? they can turn it on or off when desired !

No, it means they are attracted to both sexes Nicko.

So how is that turning it off and on?

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:09 am

Many theories concerning the development of sexual orientation involve fetal neural development, with proposed models illustrating prenatal hormone exposure, maternal immunity, and developmental instability. Other proposed factors include genetic control of sexual orientation. No conclusive evidence has been shown that environmental or learned effects are responsible for the development of non-heterosexual orientation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_and_sexual_orientation

Bet that leaves smelly in a pickle

Laughing

by HoratioTarr Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:29 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:I'd love to hear of one person who would have become gay were it not for someone teaching them that it's so-called wrong. I guarantee they don't exist. You can't teach someone to be straight or gay.

Yes you can, the same way you can teach a child to be religious but they go on to rebel and become atheist in later life.

What I want to know is why gays demand to be treated like everyone else when they don't act like everyone else??

Gays

"I want to be treated like everyone else"

Also gays

"I want special laws and privileges in society that mark me out from everyone else"

gay pride parades

"Look at me I'm gay"

Also gay pride parades

"stop looking at me you fucking homophobe"

My brother's gay. He does none of the above. So you're talking shite.

by HoratioTarr Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:32 am

eddie wrote:Okay there’s no real reason to be having an LBGT lesson in between maths and English for seven year olds....but!

Children should just be aware, either by passing comment at “talk time” in school or when they have reading time, that all types of consensual love are perfectly fine.

I don't think there's a need for very young children to have ANY sex education until they're older and perhaps ready to hear it. And I don't think there's anything wrong with parents wishing this.

by HoratioTarr Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:33 am

nicko wrote:How about Bi-sexual ? they can turn it on or off when desired !

That's not turning it on or off. That's being open to both all the time.

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:37 am

HoratioTarr wrote:
eddie wrote:Okay there’s no real reason to be having an LBGT lesson in between maths and English for seven year olds....but!

Children should just be aware, either by passing comment at “talk time” in school or when they have reading time, that all types of consensual love are perfectly fine.

I don't think there's a need for very young children to have ANY sex education until they're older and perhaps ready to hear it. And I don't think there's anything wrong with parents wishing this.

This is not sex education though, but family relationship education.

So why are parents wishing for something, that is not even happenning?

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:25 am

HoratioTarr wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

Yes you can, the same way you can teach a child to be religious but they go on to rebel and become atheist in later life.

What I want to know is why gays demand to be treated like everyone else when they don't act like everyone else??

Gays

"I want to be treated like everyone else"

Also gays

"I want special laws and privileges in society that mark me out from everyone else"

gay pride parades

"Look at me I'm gay"

Also gay pride parades

"stop looking at me you fucking homophobe"

My brother's gay. He does none of the above. So you're talking shite.

So is mine and he doesn't do any of that shit either.

But your brother and my brother are not examples of gay men, they are just men who happen to be gay

by Eilzel Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:31 am

nicko wrote:How about Bi-sexual ? they can turn it on or off when desired !

They don't turn it on and off, nicko.

They are attracted to both sexes - all the time. Maybe they have a preference but they still like both.

They don't pick and choose any more than you or I do.

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:38 am

Eilzel wrote:
nicko wrote:How about Bi-sexual ? they can turn it on or off when desired !

They don't turn it on and off, nicko.

They are attracted to both sexes - all the time. Maybe they have a preference but they still like both.

They don't pick and choose any more than you or I do.

I love the utter fucking lunacy of this

On one hand

"anyone can pick and choose whatever gender they want just by clicking their Ruby slippers together and saying I'm a real boy"

On the other hand

"don't be absurd, you can't pick and chose your sexual orientation you homophobe"

by Eilzel Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:56 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
nicko wrote:How about Bi-sexual ? they can turn it on or off when desired !

They don't turn it on and off, nicko.

They are attracted to both sexes - all the time. Maybe they have a preference but they still like both.

They don't pick and choose any more than you or I do.

I love the utter fucking lunacy of this

On one hand

"anyone can pick and choose whatever gender they want just by clicking their Ruby slippers together and saying I'm a real boy"

On the other hand

"don't be absurd, you can't pick and chose your sexual orientation you homophobe"

Spoke like the perfect example of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.

by Eilzel Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:59 am

HoratioTarr wrote:
eddie wrote:Okay there’s no real reason to be having an LBGT lesson in between maths and English for seven year olds....but!

Children should just be aware, either by passing comment at “talk time” in school or when they have reading time, that all types of consensual love are perfectly fine.

I don't think there's a need for very young children to have ANY sex education until they're older and perhaps ready to hear it. And I don't think there's anything wrong with parents wishing this.

You children aren't receiving sex education. What do you think they do, show diagrams?

The parents are homophobes, mostly for religious reasons, who would oppose teaching gay as ok at any time and in any way because their beliefs tell them being gay is wrong.

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:00 am

Eilzel wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

I love the utter fucking lunacy of this

On one hand

"anyone can pick and choose whatever gender they want just by clicking their Ruby slippers together and saying I'm a real boy"

On the other hand

"don't be absurd, you can't pick and chose your sexual orientation you homophobe"

Spoke like the perfect example of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.

Yeah what the hell was I thinking

It's makes perfect sense to be able to change gender but not sexual orientation.

Well we do live in make believe land so anything is possible I suppose

by Raggamuffin Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:04 am

Eilzel wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

I don't think there's a need for very young children to have ANY sex education until they're older and perhaps ready to hear it. And I don't think there's anything wrong with parents wishing this.

You children aren't receiving sex education. What do you think they do, show diagrams?

The parents are homophobes, mostly for religious reasons, who would oppose teaching gay as ok at any time and in any way because their beliefs tell them being gay is wrong.

I have to agree with that last bit. I don't think these parents think it might turn their child gay, they simply don't hold with homosexuality. It is absolutely down to their beliefs. However, I will just add that not all people who are against homosexuality are that way for religious reasons.

by Eilzel Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:11 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

I don't think there's a need for very young children to have ANY sex education until they're older and perhaps ready to hear it. And I don't think there's anything wrong with parents wishing this.

You children aren't receiving sex education. What do you think they do, show diagrams?

The parents are homophobes, mostly for religious reasons, who would oppose teaching gay as ok at any time and in any way because their beliefs tell them being gay is wrong.

I have to agree with that last bit. I don't think these parents think it might turn their child gay, they simply don't hold with homosexuality. It is absolutely down to their beliefs. However, I will just add that not all people who are against homosexuality are that way for religious reasons.

Right. Some people are just against it because they're nasty/stupid/outright bigots.

Because their is absolutely no good reason to 'oppose' homosexuality.

by Raggamuffin Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:12 am

I just think that these "lessons" could be counterproductive. I mean, do Muslim parents sit there at home lecturing their children about homosexuality, or do they not mention it? If a kid comes home and says they were read a story about gay parents, then it might well become an issue at home.

Children are influenced by their parents when they're young, but when they get older they're not so much. If and when they actually meet a gay person, are they really going to shout at them and tell them they're wrong?

If there are incidents of bullying at school because a kid has two gay parents, isn't it better to deal with it then rather than pre-empt it?

I really don't recall reading about gangs of Muslim kids going around bullying anyone for being gay or having gay parents anyway.

by Raggamuffin Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:14 am

Eilzel wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I have to agree with that last bit. I don't think these parents think it might turn their child gay, they simply don't hold with homosexuality. It is absolutely down to their beliefs. However, I will just add that not all people who are against homosexuality are that way for religious reasons.

Right. Some people are just against it because they're nasty/stupid/outright bigots.

Because their is absolutely no good reason to 'oppose' homosexuality.

They might not be nasty bigots Les, just old fashioned, or they might just not understand it. That doesn't mean they're going around shouting at gay people or sounding off about homosexuality. They might be perfectly nice people who just don't understand something.

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