Admins or mods?

Are Veya, Lurker and Irn Bru just mods or are they administrators because it lists them as admins under their usernames?

Because seriously there is absolutely no need for multiple administrators and administrator privileges can be abused very easily.

Queen Of Hearts wrote:Because seriously there is absolutely no need for multiple administrators and administrator privileges can be abused very easily.

I'm just a lowly mod Queenie. I used to be a rocker in my younger days though and no chance you would find me on a Lambretta or a Vespa.

Queen Of Hearts wrote:Are Veya, Lurker and Irn Bru just mods or are they administrators because it lists them as admins under their usernames?

You are right. They are listed as admin

NemsAgain wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:Are Veya, Lurker and Irn Bru just mods or are they administrators because it lists them as admins under their usernames?

You are right. They are listed as admin

Many forums list mods as admin now Nems, although it's Ben' site, his staff do the same job to an extent.

Joy Division wrote:

NemsAgain wrote:

You are right. They are listed as admin

Many forums list mods as admin now Nems, although it's Ben' site, his staff do the same job to an extent.

Do they? Which ones?
do you know the difference?

Joy Division wrote:

NemsAgain wrote:

You are right. They are listed as admin

Many forums list mods as admin now Nems, although it's Ben' site, his staff do the same job to an extent.

As you say JD, Ben's site. Nobody else's business really.

NemsAgain wrote:

Joy Division wrote:



Many forums list mods as admin now Nems, although it's Ben' site, his staff do the same job to an extent.

Do they? Which ones?
do you know the difference?

Well yes I do...

Briefly,,admin have full control and upload and download programmes on forums, probably more for paid for forums, as well as upload the software for that programme, most likely again if paid for, the owner also designs and layout if their own forum.

Shit like that, admin own the forum, I know admin own the forum, but many forums as I say , name the mods who moderate behaviour etc as admin now....

So Ben has has given the title to his 'mods' as admin...

Who really gives a fuck Nems?

Sassy wrote:

Joy Division wrote:



Many forums list mods as admin now Nems, although it's Ben' site, his staff do the same job to an extent.

As you say JD, Ben's site.   Nobody else's business really.  

That's is sassy

Joy Division wrote:

Who really gives a fuck Nems?

I give a fuck because Ben has assigned a user who has a history with the rest of us as a moderator.
If he was actually making him admin then I would not be comfortable with that.

I think i'm with you here JD - so what, it's up to Ben.

BigAndy9 wrote:I think i'm with you here JD - so what, it's up to Ben.

Didn't you just make a thread about Ben's policy about dealing with abusive posts?

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Joy Division wrote:

Who really gives a fuck Nems?

I give a fuck because Ben has assigned a user who has a history with the rest of us as a moderator.
If he was actually making him admin then I would not be comfortable with that.

..that's up to Ben his forum, his call.

BigAndy9 wrote:I think i'm with you here JD - so what, it's up to Ben.

That's it Andy, regardless of who Ben has as admin or mod none of us have to post here if we ain't happy , but we are happy!  

Joy Division wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

I give a fuck because Ben has assigned a user who has a history with the rest of us as a moderator.
If he was actually making him admin then I would not be comfortable with that.

..that's up to Ben his forum, his call.

Completely agree JD, some people can't help throwing their weight around, when it's none of their business tbf.

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

BigAndy9 wrote:I think i'm with you here JD - so what, it's up to Ben.

Didn't you just make a thread about Ben's policy about dealing with abusive posts?

Yep.

I disagree with him on that, but agree with JD's take on this (if JD's take is correct).

You see petal, I don't post about a poster, I post about the thread, on a thread-by-thread basis.

BigAndy9 wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Didn't you just make a thread about Ben's policy about dealing with abusive posts?

Yep.

I disagree with him on that, but agree with JD's take on this (if JD's take is correct).

You see petal, I don't post about a poster, I post about the thread, on a thread-by-thread basis.

Your right Andy , just because one or two having a past personal grievance with a Mod is no reason for this outburst...


Especially when that mod has always been respectful in their last postings and non abusive even when they have been insulted or abused by others in the past.

Furthermore, this bewilders me as one or two of these posters have been elsewhere where they have witnessed the severe abuse of others present and non present at the time.

So I think ,  that although it's not up to me but this thread would be best locked as there is nothing constructive emerging from this post.

Joy Division wrote:
So I think ,  that although it's not up to me but this thread would be best locked.

A thread with rabid circle-jerking like this probably should be locked, yeah.

I'm not a mod or a rocker, I'm a mocker.

But seriously, folks ...

I granted admin privileges to Lurker, Caution, Veya and Irn so they could do anything I might need to do while I'm busy or sleeping. Admin is not the top rank the way the site is set up through Forumotion; the top rank is founder, which is mine and keeps anybody from being able to do things over my head. Just for example, I could deactivate an admin's account, while they could not do the same to me.

Admins are members too, and admins abusing power would be dealt with just like members. That said, you all know by now that there are very few restrictions here, and all the admins have been upholding that policy.

Ben_Reilly wrote:I'm not a mod or a rocker, I'm a mocker.

But seriously, folks ...

I granted admin privileges to Lurker, Caution, Veya and Irn so they could do anything I might need to do while I'm busy or sleeping. Admin is not the top rank the way the site is set up through Forumotion; the top rank is founder, which is mine and keeps anybody from being able to do things over my head. Just for example, I could deactivate an admin's account, while they could not do the same to me.

Admins are members too, and admins abusing power would be dealt with just like members. That said, you all know by now that there are very few restrictions here, and all the admins have been upholding that policy.

Thanks Ben, just as I thought.

Your staff are doing a fine job

So are you obviously!! :D 

Cheers!

Ben_Reilly wrote:I'm not a mod or a rocker, I'm a mocker.

But seriously, folks ...

I granted admin privileges to Lurker, Caution, Veya and Irn so they could do anything I might need to do while I'm busy or sleeping.

Moderators can ban members, lock, delete, sticky and move threads and so on.
I personally can't imagine what matter requiring administrator privileges could come up that couldn't wait for you to be online.

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Admin is not the top rank the way the site is set up through Forumotion; the top rank is founder, which is mine and keeps anybody from being able to do things over my head. Just for example, I could deactivate an admin's account, while they could not do the same to me.

Admins are members too, and admins abusing power would be dealt with just like members. That said, you all know by now that there are very few restrictions here, and all the admins have been upholding that policy.

I have administrated forumotion sites before and know what administrators can do and what they have access to and I am not comfortable with Sassy's and Phil's buddy having said privileges.

Well, maybe you should hold off complaining until you actually have something to complain about? Just a thought.

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:I'm not a mod or a rocker, I'm a mocker.

But seriously, folks ...

I granted admin privileges to Lurker, Caution, Veya and Irn so they could do anything I might need to do while I'm busy or sleeping.

Moderators can ban members, lock, delete, sticky and move threads and so on.
I personally can't imagine what matter requiring administrator privileges could come up that couldn't wait for you to be online.

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Admin is not the top rank the way the site is set up through Forumotion; the top rank is founder, which is mine and keeps anybody from being able to do things over my head. Just for example, I could deactivate an admin's account, while they could not do the same to me.

Admins are members too, and admins abusing power would be dealt with just like members. That said, you all know by now that there are very few restrictions here, and all the admins have been upholding that policy.

I have administrated forumotion sites before and know what administrators can do and what they have access to and I am not comfortable with Sassy's and Phil's buddy having said privileges.

Your choice to be here. If you don't like it, you don't have to post. Plus, Irn would not, under any conditions, tell me about something he has done as an admin or a mod. As someone who has a top security pass in real life, he is used to keeping information to himself.

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:I'm not a mod or a rocker, I'm a mocker.

But seriously, folks ...

I granted admin privileges to Lurker, Caution, Veya and Irn so they could do anything I might need to do while I'm busy or sleeping.

Moderators can ban members, lock, delete, sticky and move threads and so on.
I personally can't imagine what matter requiring administrator privileges could come up that couldn't wait for you to be online.

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Admin is not the top rank the way the site is set up through Forumotion; the top rank is founder, which is mine and keeps anybody from being able to do things over my head. Just for example, I could deactivate an admin's account, while they could not do the same to me.

Admins are members too, and admins abusing power would be dealt with just like members. That said, you all know by now that there are very few restrictions here, and all the admins have been upholding that policy.

I have administrated forumotion sites before and know what administrators can do and what they have access to and I am not comfortable with Sassy's and Phil's buddy having said privileges.

Queenie, you have never had any issues with me in the past and as far as moderation is concerned I have never moderated any posts, locked any threads, deleted any threads or anything. In fact I didn't even know I had admin rights until this came up because I see myself as just a helper around here to try and look after things while the other guys are off line and I help with new registrations.
What I post are my opinions and my beliefs and buddies or whatever have no part in being privvy to any information that I may have.

In fact, I have had my own details and my own email address drip fed bit by bit by the administrator of another forum owner that you post on where a member other than him has said openly on the forum that he has access to IP addressed of members and he tracks them so if you have concerns about your security I would suggest you worry over there.

Irn

Irn Bru wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:
Moderators can ban members, lock, delete, sticky and move threads and so on.
I personally can't imagine what matter requiring administrator privileges could come up that couldn't wait for you to be online.


I have administrated forumotion sites before and know what administrators can do and what they have access to and I am not comfortable with Sassy's and Phil's buddy having said privileges.

Queenie, you have never had any issues with me in the past and as far as moderation is concerned I have never moderated any posts, locked any threads, deleted any threads or anything. In fact I didn't even know I had admin rights until this came up because I see myself as just a helper around here to try and look after things while the other guys are off line and I help with new registrations.
What I post are my opinions and my beliefs and buddies or whatever have no part in being privvy to any information that I may have.

I have no issue with you either but I hope you can understand why I might be a bit uncomfortable with this.

Irn Bru wrote:
In fact, I have had my own details and my own email address drip fed bit by bit by the administrator of another forum owner that you post on where a member other than him has said openly on the forum that he has access to IP addressed of members and he tracks them so if you have concerns about your security I would suggest you worry over there.

Irn

Which user said they knew your details?

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Joy Division wrote:

Who really gives a fuck Nems?

I give a fuck because Ben has assigned a user who has a history with the rest of us as a moderator.
If he was actually making him admin then I would not be comfortable with that.

What history have you or anyone else had with me as a moderator?

Irn Bru wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

I give a fuck because Ben has assigned a user who has a history with the rest of us as a moderator.
If he was actually making him admin then I would not be comfortable with that.

What history have you or anyone else had with me as a moderator?

Again, I have no issue with you personally, I don't dislike you or anything like that.
However I do have issue with Phil who constantly accuses me of being a paedophile and with Sassy who often makes condescending comments directed at me and you're friendly with them. That's where my concern comes from.

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:
Moderators can ban members, lock, delete, sticky and move threads and so on.
I personally can't imagine what matter requiring administrator privileges could come up that couldn't wait for you to be online.


I have administrated forumotion sites before and know what administrators can do and what they have access to and I am not comfortable with Sassy's and Phil's buddy having said privileges.

Queenie, you have never had any issues with me in the past and as far as moderation is concerned I have never moderated any posts, locked any threads, deleted any threads or anything. In fact I didn't even know I had admin rights until this came up because I see myself as just a helper around here to try and look after things while the other guys are off line and I help with new registrations.
What I post are my opinions and my beliefs and buddies or whatever have no part in being privvy to any information that I may have.

I have no issue with you either but I hope you can understand why I might be a bit uncomfortable with this.

Irn Bru wrote:
In fact, I have had my own details and my own email address drip fed bit by bit by the administrator of another forum owner that you post on where a member other than him has said openly on the forum that he has access to IP addressed of members and he tracks them so if you have concerns about your security I would suggest you worry over there.

Irn

Which user said they knew your details?

It wasn't my details. It was a reply I saw by a member who was responding to a post by someone else. Ask Durham, I'm sure he'll remember posting that.

My email details were drip fed on a different blog run by the present owner of the forum you post on.

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

I give a fuck because Ben has assigned a user who has a history with the rest of us as a moderator.
If he was actually making him admin then I would not be comfortable with that.

What history have you or anyone else had with me as a moderator?

Again, I have no issue with you personally, I don't dislike you or anything like that.
However I do have issue with Phil who constantly accuses me of being a paedophile and with Sassy who often makes condescending comments directed at me and you're friendly with them. That's where my concern comes from.

So no-one has had an issue with me in the past as a moderator. then? And I'm friendly with many people and I'm never personally abusive to anyone whatever their views are.

So what do you want either myself or Ben to do next about this?

Irn Bru wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:
I have no issue with you either but I hope you can understand why I might be a bit uncomfortable with this.


Which user said they knew your details?

It wasn't my details. It was a reply I saw by a member who was responding to a post by someone else. Ask Durham, I'm sure he'll remember posting that.

My email details were drip fed on a different blog run by the present owner of the forum you post on.

I can look into it but can you link to the post in question?

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

What history have you or anyone else had with me as a moderator?

Again, I have no issue with you personally, I don't dislike you or anything like that.
However I do have issue with Phil who constantly accuses me of being a paedophile and with Sassy who often makes condescending comments directed at me and you're friendly with them. That's where my concern comes from.

Are you male or female?

Catman wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Again, I have no issue with you personally, I don't dislike you or anything like that.
However I do have issue with Phil who constantly accuses me of being a paedophile and with Sassy who often makes condescending comments directed at me and you're friendly with them. That's where my concern comes from.

Are you male or female?

I thought you blocked me you little pussy.

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:
I have no issue with you either but I hope you can understand why I might be a bit uncomfortable with this.


Which user said they knew your details?

It wasn't my details. It was a reply I saw by a member who was responding to a post by someone else. Ask Durham, I'm sure he'll remember posting that.

My email details were drip fed on a different blog run by the present owner of the forum you post on.

I can look into it but can you link to the post in question?

It was a few months back and I would think it's gone by now. Ask Durham and Flap about it?

Irn Bru wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Again, I have no issue with you personally, I don't dislike you or anything like that.
However I do have issue with Phil who constantly accuses me of being a paedophile and with Sassy who often makes condescending comments directed at me and you're friendly with them. That's where my concern comes from.

So no-one has had an issue with me in the past as a moderator. then? And I'm friendly with many people and I'm never personally abusive to anyone whatever their views are.

So what do you want either myself or Ben to do next about this?

If you're not going to abuse access to information then there's not going to be a problem. If my claims that you might offended you then I'm sorry but I just wanted to voice my concerns.

Any way, It's late and I'm off but let Ben or myself know what you think should be done next about this and I'll read it tomorrow.

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Catman wrote:

Are you male or female?

I thought you blocked me you little pussy.

Just answer the question.

You said that you was a 20 year old male, not that long ago.

Catman wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

I thought you blocked me you little pussy.

Just answer the question.

You said that you was a 20 year old male, not that long ago.

It's hilarious.
You talk shit then block someone when they give it back and then unblock them within the hour.
How desperate is your need to fling shit? Does your life revolve around it or something?

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Catman wrote:

Just answer the question.

You said that you was a 20 year old male, not that long ago.

It's hilarious.
You talk shit then block someone when they give it back and then unblock them within the hour.
How desperate is your need to fling shit? Does your life revolve around it or something?

Just asking a simple question.

Sorry that you got upset about it!

lol

Catman wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

It's hilarious.
You talk shit then block someone when they give it back and then unblock them within the hour.
How desperate is your need to fling shit? Does your life revolve around it or something?

Just asking a simple question.

Sorry that you got upset about it!

lol

Yeah sure.
Now run back over to bitchfest to cry about how mean I am to you because you're too much of a pussy shit to do it here.

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Catman wrote:

Just asking a simple question.

Sorry that you got upset about it!

lol

Yeah sure.
Now run back over to bitchfest to cry about how mean I am to you because you're too much of a pussy shit to do it here.

Male then?

Catman wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Yeah sure.
Now run back over to bitchfest to cry about how mean I am to you because you're too much of a pussy shit to do it here.

Male then?

You blocked me in a tantrum, remember?
You shouldn't be talking to me.

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Catman wrote:


Male then?

You blocked me in a tantrum, remember?
You shouldn't be talking to me.

....Not going to answer the question then.

Fair enough.

Joy Division wrote:

NemsAgain wrote:

Do they? Which ones?
do you know the difference?

Well yes I do...

Briefly,,admin have full control and upload and download programmes on forums, probably more for paid for forums, as well as upload the software for that programme, most likely again if paid for, the owner also designs and layout if their own forum.

Shit like that, admin own the forum, I know admin own the forum, but many forums as I say , name the mods who moderate behaviour etc as admin now....

So Ben has has given the title to his 'mods' as admin...

Who really gives a fuck Nems?

Me, because I want to know who has my personal info and whether it is secure or being shared.

@nems
I cant see any details unless you put them in your profile... and you haven't      

NemsAgain wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


Well yes I do...

Briefly,,admin have full control and upload and download programmes on forums, probably more for paid for forums, as well as upload the software for that programme, most likely again if paid for, the owner also designs and layout if their own forum.

Shit like that, admin own the forum, I know admin own the forum, but many forums as I say , name the mods who moderate behaviour etc as admin now....

So Ben has has given the title to his 'mods' as admin...

Who really gives a fuck Nems?

Me, because I want to know who has my personal info and whether it is secure or being shared.

The most likely bit of personal information people put on these forums are their names in the email address they use to join up.

Even if you don't use "traceybeaker@gmail.com" some email clients will show your name even if you used "nemsagain@gmail.com" - you may have used a real name when you created that email, and then that real name may show up.

You need to use fake everything if you want to stay hidden.

Nup cant even see her email  

We are just mods but it says admin on the side, Maybe Ben can see more details       but some one has got to

NemsAgain wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


Well yes I do...

Briefly,,admin have full control and upload and download programmes on forums, probably more for paid for forums, as well as upload the software for that programme, most likely again if paid for, the owner also designs and layout if their own forum.

Shit like that, admin own the forum, I know admin own the forum, but many forums as I say , name the mods who moderate behaviour etc as admin now....

So Ben has has given the title to his 'mods' as admin...

Who really gives a fuck Nems?

Me, because I want to know who has my personal info and whether it is secure or being shared.

who are you worried that has theses details nems ?
or more accurately your email address as thats about all the personal details available

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

What history have you or anyone else had with me as a moderator?

Again, I have no issue with you personally, I don't dislike you or anything like that.

I kinda agree, Queenie.  Irn is one of the nicest guys around, but he is 'first mate' to one of the most dangerous posters here.  That poster is known for her stalking (which she has admitted/shown to me personally), and tantrums, etc.  The issue is, what did Irn learn in confidence, and then convey to her in casual conversation?  We know she squirrels such things away, and it inevitably comes back in one of her tantrums.

I don't want to argue the underlying matter right here.  But I do want to lay down enough to show that my concern is genuine and well-founded.

So, as long as y'all were discussing it anyway...

Original Quill wrote:

Queen Of Hearts wrote:

Again, I have no issue with you personally, I don't dislike you or anything like that.

I kinda agree, Queenie.  Irn is one of the nicest guys around, but he is 'first mate' to one of the most dangerous posters here.  That poster is known for her stalking (which she has admitted/shown to me personally), and tantrums, etc.  The issue is, what did Irn learn in confidence, and then convey to her in casual conversation?  We know she squirrels such things away, and it inevitably comes back in one of her tantrums.

I don't want to argue the underlying matter right here.  But I do want to lay down enough to show that my concern is genuine and well-founded.

So, as long as y'all were discussing it anyway...

first mate' to one of the most dangerous posters here ? and who would that be ?


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