Judgement day...

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Do you believe there will be a judgement day for each and every one of us?...

I mean with all this talk of gays and homophobia God is supposed to love everyone right?...

Amd if he can forgive rapists and murderers for their awful sins,then surely he can 'forgive' a person for being gay surely?

I see a few contradictions in the things folk write.

So are we all going to have our own judgement day and stand in front of God, before he decide ps wether or not we can enter heaven?

I think it's nonsense myself like,  but I do believe in spirits.

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

no noah was saved, he was not the only human saved.. :D 

Not how you wrote this though was it, you did make another gaff  :D 

Also are you sure?


Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God
waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing wherein few,
that is, eight souls were saved by water.

I Peter 3:20 (KJV)


For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell...
And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth, a preacher of
righteousness, bringing the flood upon the world of the ungodly...

II Peter 2:4-5 (KJV)

no gaff at all, i was asked was noah the only human saved to which i answered no, which is correct..

you asked wasn't noah saved, i said noah was saved, which is true..

the fact you did not ask how many humans were saved never came up..

8 people were saved from noah's flood... :D 

well there was more than 7 aborigines   and they didn't get on a boat       

and I said 'Noah and co' as in Noah and company

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Not how you wrote this though was it, you did make another gaff  :D 

Also are you sure?


Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God
waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing wherein few,
that is, eight souls were saved by water.

I Peter 3:20 (KJV)


For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell...
And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth, a preacher of
righteousness, bringing the flood upon the world of the ungodly...

II Peter 2:4-5 (KJV)

no gaff at all, i was asked was noah the only human saved to which i answered no, which is correct..

you asked wasn't noah saved, i said noah was saved, which is true..

the fact you did not ask how many humans were saved never came up..

8 people were saved from noah's flood... :D 

No what you write read that everyone were not killed but Noah, read it again ha ha  :D 

You also said only Noah, so now you are contradicting yourself.

 :D 

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

no gaff at all, i was asked was noah the only human saved to which i answered no, which is correct..

you asked wasn't noah saved, i said noah was saved, which is true..

the fact you did not ask how many humans were saved never came up..

8 people were saved from noah's flood... :D 

No what you write read that everyone were not killed but Noah, read it again ha ha  :D 

You also said only Noah, so now you are contradicting yourself.

 :D 

No i most clearly did not, i said not just noah died in the flood, which is correct, you assumed what i wrote and reacted accordingly and as usual got it wrong... :D 

heavenly father wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:Please present the passages that suggest everyone but Noah and co was not killed.
    
I Cant find any

everyone but Noah wern't killed ... :D 

  

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

everyone but Noah wern't killed ... :D 

  

    

it is quite right not everyone but noah was killed, 8 people survived the flood..

    

you do read english don't you...  

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

everyone but Noah wern't killed ... :D 

  

Lets place this into English

Everyone but Noah were not killed.

That means Noah was killed

DOH

If you had said Everyone but Noah were killed would have been correct, so you made a right cock up of that

@HF
8 people doesn't change the point

well there was more than 7 aborigines and they didn't get on a boat Suspect Suspect Suspect

and I said 'Noah and co' as in Noah and company
.

PhilDidge wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

  

Lets place this into English

Everyone but Noah were not killed.

That means Noah was killed

DOH



If you had said Everyone but Noah were killed would have been correct, so you made a right cock up of that

No it does not it means not it means exactly what it says, no everyone but noah was killed would be incorrect as seven others survived..lol  

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Lets place this into English

Everyone but Noah were not killed.

That means Noah was killed

DOH



If you had said Everyone but Noah were killed would have been correct, so you made a right cock up of that

No it does not it means not it means exactly what it says, no everyone but noah was killed would be incorrect as seven others survived..lol  

Proof again Faith is the institutionalization of pure stupidity."
You made a mistake and cannot admit to it ha ha

Pathetic

Go and ask your god for forgiveness for  ::lies::[/quote]

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

No it does not it means not it means exactly what it says, no everyone but noah was killed would be incorrect as seven others survived..lol  

Proof again Faith is the institutionalization of pure stupidity."
You made a mistake and cannot admit to it ha ha

Pathetic

Go and ask your god for forgiveness for  ::lies::

[/quote]

interesting, how is your inability to understand proof of any stupidity but your own... :D 

veya_victaous wrote:well there was more than 7 aborigines   and they didn't get on a boat       

and I said 'Noah and co' as in Noah and company

Amazing isn't it; how the flood apparently wiped out all humanity minus Noah and his family; yet if you trace the family lines back in the Bible to the time of Noah we are measuring human history in a few thousand years. If the flood story was true there should be no Negroid or Mongoloid people- yet there they are for all to see- The Bible is BS.

Eilzel wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:well there was more than 7 aborigines   and they didn't get on a boat       

and I said 'Noah and co' as in Noah and company

Amazing isn't it; how the flood apparently wiped out all humanity minus Noah and his family; yet if you trace the family lines back in the Bible to the time of Noah we are measuring human history in a few thousand years. If the flood story was true there should be no Negroid or Mongoloid people- yet there they are for all to see- The Bible is BS.

the bible never says how old the earth is.... :D 

heavenly father wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

Amazing isn't it; how the flood apparently wiped out all humanity minus Noah and his family; yet if you trace the family lines back in the Bible to the time of Noah we are measuring human history in a few thousand years. If the flood story was true there should be no Negroid or Mongoloid people- yet there they are for all to see- The Bible is BS.

the bible never says how old the earth is.... :D 

Does not need to say how old the earth is, we have the age of many biblical characters, so what date do you place the flood then HF?
You know people have calculated back from know figures from the bible corroborated by other works, like for example the Israelite King Omri?

Eilzel wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:well there was more than 7 aborigines   and they didn't get on a boat       

and I said 'Noah and co' as in Noah and company

Amazing isn't it; how the flood apparently wiped out all humanity minus Noah and his family; yet if you trace the family lines back in the Bible to the time of Noah we are measuring human history in a few thousand years. If the flood story was true there should be no Negroid or Mongoloid people- yet there they are for all to see- The Bible is BS.

Yep 8 people survived and committed incest to repopulate the planet    

heavenly father wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

Amazing isn't it; how the flood apparently wiped out all humanity minus Noah and his family; yet if you trace the family lines back in the Bible to the time of Noah we are measuring human history in a few thousand years. If the flood story was true there should be no Negroid or Mongoloid people- yet there they are for all to see- The Bible is BS.

the bible never says how old the earth is.... :D 

As didge says; using the hundreds of ages of different people we are given in the Bible we can trace family lines back from the times of Jesus to Noah- and it is measurable in a few thousands years- where did the Negroids and Mongoloids come in?

PhilDidge wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

Amazing isn't it; how the flood apparently wiped out all humanity minus Noah and his family; yet if you trace the family lines back in the Bible to the time of Noah we are measuring human history in a few thousand years. If the flood story was true there should be no Negroid or Mongoloid people- yet there they are for all to see- The Bible is BS.

Yep 8 people survived and committed incest to repopulate the planet    

Incest is a well established practice in Biblical stories   

Eilzel wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Yep 8 people survived and committed incest to repopulate the planet    

Incest is a well established practice in Biblical stories   

Indeed Abraham for one married his sister   

Eilzel wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

the bible never says how old the earth is.... :D 

As didge says; using the hundreds of ages of different people we are given in the Bible we can trace family lines back from the times of Jesus to Noah- and it is measurable in a few thousands years- where did the Negroids and Mongoloids come in?

I want to know how Noah managed to collect and get on board around pairs of 4-5 million species, given the fact the dimensions of the ark are given, let alone how he managed to feed them all, being as many would also be meat eaters?

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PhilDidge wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

As didge says; using the hundreds of ages of different people we are given in the Bible we can trace family lines back from the times of Jesus to Noah- and it is measurable in a few thousands years- where did the Negroids and Mongoloids come in?

I want to know how Noah managed to collect and get on board around pairs of 4-5 million species, given the fact the dimensions of the ark are given, let alone how he managed to feed them all, being as many would also be meat eaters?

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thats because you do not understand the concept of God.

heavenly father wrote:

thats because  you do not understand the concept of God.

Really?

So please explain how he managed to tell Noah exactly what dimensions to build the ark and then collect pairs of 4-5 million species, then fit them in the ark and then feed them for 40 days and 40 nights?

I understand perfectly well the story is complete bollocks

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

thats because  you do not understand the concept of God.

Really?

So please explain how he managed to tell Noah exactly what dimensions to build the ark and then collect pairs of 4-5 million species, then fit them in the ark and then feed them for 40 days and 40 nights?

I understand perfectly well the story is complete bollocks

you question how God could communicate his ideas to a man? visions, dreams, that sort of thing..

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Really?

So please explain how he managed to tell Noah exactly what dimensions to build the ark and then collect pairs of 4-5 million species, then fit them in the ark and then feed them for 40 days and 40 nights?

I understand perfectly well the story is complete bollocks

you question how God could communicate his ideas to a man? visions, dreams, that sort of thing..

Hilarious, no just a simply answer to my questions will do.


Remember I said to you about showing logical contradictions in faith, if as you claim happened God complicated the whole scenario and condemned millions upon millions of species let alone the fish to near extinction by such a folly of a plan. A simpler way would have been to send a virus to wipe out humanity, with the cure only given to Noah, do you not see thus the logical flaws in this claim of a deities plan.


I love these questions:



How, exactly, did eight extreme senior citizens load, manage and care for 32,000 animals (this is the biblical authorities claim on numbers)?

What about specialized diets (bamboo for the giant panda, meat for the carnivores, fresh vegetation for the herbivores)?

Who cleaned each stall and shoveled the tons of daily excrement through the huge ark’s single window?

How did they separate the predator and prey animals? Did the lion lay with the lamb?

How do you explain the acquisition and loading of animals not indigenous to the Middle East (many separated by oceans), like the polar bear, the sloth, the crocodile, the fruit bat, the anaconda, etc?

And how did the penguins and other cold-climate creatures survive in the blistering desert heat?

Wouldn’t freshwater rains from the sky have made the saltwater deadly to ocean marine life?

And wouldn’t saltwater have proven equally toxic to all freshwater fish? If water boiled up from beneath the earth’s crust, wouldn’t water temperature changes in the delicate ecosystem have also had a deadly effect?

Dinosaurs on the ark. Did they exit the boat and THEN get hit by a comet?

ohhh the thinking atheist..lol nice website...

God can do what he wants, how he wants, he created everything it is his to do with as he pleases, what more can I say.

heavenly father wrote:ohhh the thinking atheist..lol nice website...

God can do what he wants, how he wants, he created everything it is his to do with as he pleases, what more can I say.

Well as seen I have come up with a better way to eradicate the humans in the time of Noah, how is it I have devised a much better way than this make belief deity of yours?

It still also means you have failed to answer the questions HF, not only that you have failed to answer how we can work out the age back to Noah using the bible.

So why do you keep squirming out of answering chap?

 :D 

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:ohhh the thinking atheist..lol nice website...

God can do what he wants, how he wants, he created everything it is his to do with as he pleases, what more can I say.

Well as seen I have come up with a better way to eradicate the humans in the time of Noah, how is it I have devised a much better way than this make belief deity of yours?

It still also means you have failed to answer the questions HF, not only that you have failed to answer how we can work out the age back to Noah using the bible.

So why do you keep squirming out of answering chap?

 :D 


 

you may have come up with a different way not necessarily a better way..

no squirming going on here, they don't call me didge, i do know the bible does not claim the earth is 6000 or so years old though... :D 

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Well as seen I have come up with a better way to eradicate the humans in the time of Noah, how is it I have devised a much better way than this make belief deity of yours?

It still also means you have failed to answer the questions HF, not only that you have failed to answer how we can work out the age back to Noah using the bible.

So why do you keep squirming out of answering chap?

 :D 


 

you may have come up with a different way not necessarily a better way..

no squirming going on here, they don't call me didge, i do know the bible does not claim the earth is 6000 or so years old though... :D 

Really. how is saving having to round up animals and build and ark and then suffer 40 days and nights of rain a better way than just sending a pandemic?

Which way is easier?

Mine, it also saves billions of animals from certain death also, so again my method not only is easier, less complex and saves the earth from destruction

Er you still keep squirming again, nobody has made claim to the age of the earth in the Bible DOH, but the age worked backwards of when Noah lived using the Bible as a source, which places you up the creek without a paddle, as you either back the bible as the word of God and thus it places the flood only a few thousand years ago with would then prove it is made up from the age or you do not believe the bible is the word of God and thus the biblical flood is made up anyway.


Take your time

 :D 

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

you may have come up with a different way not necessarily a better way..

no squirming going on here, they don't call me didge, i do know the bible does not claim the earth is 6000 or so years old though... :D 

Really. how is saving having to round up animals and build and ark and then suffer 40 days and nights of rain a better way than just sending a pandemic?

Which way is easier?

Mine, it also saves billions of animals from certain death also, so again my method not only is easier, less complex and saves the earth from destruction

Er you still keep squirming again, nobody has made claim to the age of the earth in the Bible DOH, but the age worked backwards of when Noah lived using the Bible as a source, which places you up the creek without a paddle, as you either back the bible as the word of God and thus it places the flood only a few thousand years ago with would then prove it is made up from the age or you do not believe the bible is the word of God and thus the biblical flood is made up anyway.


Take your time

 :D   

because God knows what he is doing and you clearly do not..lol


not at all because it never mentions a time that the earth has been created..lol

why would that flood prove anything about the age of the earth...

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Really?

So please explain how he managed to tell Noah exactly what dimensions to build the ark and then collect pairs of 4-5 million species, then fit them in the ark and then feed them for 40 days and 40 nights?

I understand perfectly well the story is complete bollocks

you question how God could communicate his ideas to a man? visions, dreams, that sort of thing..

Can I just ask. If some devout Christian came to you and told you he had had a vision from God, would your first thought be that he was mad or that he was telling the truth?

If that person said he had a vision from God, and seemed genuine enough, and said that God had told him that homosexuality is in fact not a sin- would this affect whether you chose to believe him or not?

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Really. how is saving having to round up animals and build and ark and then suffer 40 days and nights of rain a better way than just sending a pandemic?

Which way is easier?

Mine, it also saves billions of animals from certain death also, so again my method not only is easier, less complex and saves the earth from destruction

Er you still keep squirming again, nobody has made claim to the age of the earth in the Bible DOH, but the age worked backwards of when Noah lived using the Bible as a source, which places you up the creek without a paddle, as you either back the bible as the word of God and thus it places the flood only a few thousand years ago with would then prove it is made up from the age or you do not believe the bible is the word of God and thus the biblical flood is made up anyway.


Take your time

 :D   

because God knows what he is doing and you clearly do not..lol


not at all because it never mentions a time that the earth has been created..lol

why would that flood prove anything about the age of the earth...

You seem to be struggling to read again. No one is discussing the age of the Earth, you claim to know the Bible better than anyone- you should then know that by reading the ages of people from Noah's time through his family lines down to Jesus, you CAN work out a rough period in human history when the flood is alleged to have happened. Do you understand that?

NOT how old Earth is but WHEN the flood happened.

Eilzel wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

you question how God could communicate his ideas to a man? visions, dreams, that sort of thing..

Can I just ask. If some devout Christian came to you and told you he had had a vision from God, would your first thought be that he was mad or that he was telling the truth?

If that person said he had a vision from God, and seemed genuine enough, and said that God had told him that homosexuality is in fact not a sin- would this affect whether you chose to believe him or not?

I would first weigh what was said with God's word, i would also look for another witness as the bible calls it..

so still sticking to that ideal i would know instantly by God's word it is a sin therefore would disregard the vision..

Eilzel wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

because God knows what he is doing and you clearly do not..lol


not at all because it never mentions a time that the earth has been created..lol

why would that flood prove anything about the age of the earth...

You seem to be struggling to read again. No one is discussing the age of the Earth, you claim to know the Bible better than anyone- you should then know that by reading the ages of people from Noah's time through his family lines down to Jesus, you CAN work out a rough period in human history when the flood is alleged to have happened. Do you understand that?

NOT how old Earth is but WHEN the flood happened.

thats cool and how does it help knowing when the flood roughly happened... :D 

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Really. how is saving having to round up animals and build and ark and then suffer 40 days and nights of rain a better way than just sending a pandemic?

Which way is easier?

Mine, it also saves billions of animals from certain death also, so again my method not only is easier, less complex and saves the earth from destruction

Er you still keep squirming again, nobody has made claim to the age of the earth in the Bible DOH, but the age worked backwards of when Noah lived using the Bible as a source, which places you up the creek without a paddle, as you either back the bible as the word of God and thus it places the flood only a few thousand years ago with would then prove it is made up from the age or you do not believe the bible is the word of God and thus the biblical flood is made up anyway.


Take your time

 :D   

because God knows what he is doing and you clearly do not..lol


not at all because it never mentions a time that the earth has been created..lol

why would that flood prove anything about the age of the earth...

So now you claim to know Gods thoughts also?

Really?

Again you keep twisting out of when the flood happened thus again a simple question for you to answer


Is the bible the word of God to you?

heavenly father wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

You seem to be struggling to read again. No one is discussing the age of the Earth, you claim to know the Bible better than anyone- you should then know that by reading the ages of people from Noah's time through his family lines down to Jesus, you CAN work out a rough period in human history when the flood is alleged to have happened. Do you understand that?

NOT how old Earth is but WHEN the flood happened.

thats cool and how does it help knowing when the flood roughly happened... :D 

Because then we can show the contradictions over ethnicity surviving this so called flood.


You do understand genealogy do you?

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

because God knows what he is doing and you clearly do not..lol


not at all because it never mentions a time that the earth has been created..lol

why would that flood prove anything about the age of the earth...

So now you claim to know Gods thoughts also?

Really?

Again you keep twisting out of when the flood happened thus again a simple question for you to answer


Is the bible the word of God to you?

lol i kow what yo are like yu couldn't even decide who killed Jesus, so from that i deduce that God probably knows better than you...lol

of course the bible is God's word to me..

I asked what is the importance of knowing roughly when the flood occurred... :D 

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


So now you claim to know Gods thoughts also?

Really?

Again you keep twisting out of when the flood happened thus again a simple question for you to answer


Is the bible the word of God to you?

lol i kow what yo are like yu couldn't even decide who killed Jesus, so from that i deduce that God probably knows better than you...lol

of course the bible is God's word to me..

I asked what is the importance of knowing roughly when the flood occurred... :D 

Oh my more deflection, dear me, you are really squirming badly now ha ha ha ha

So the bible is the word  of God to you, so why do you back then my earlier questions to you that adulterers and children who disobey should be put to death then?

Do you understand what genealogy is?

Surely all people would thus only be able to trace our genetic roots to 3 people Shem, Ham, and Japheth,?

Why is this though completely wrong and that many people descend way further back than these 3?


That is why it is important to know when the claim of the flood happened

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

lol i kow what yo are like yu couldn't even decide who killed Jesus, so from that i deduce that God probably knows better than you...lol

of course the bible is God's word to me..

I asked what is the importance of knowing roughly when the flood occurred... :D 

Oh my more deflection, dear me, you are really squirming badly now ha ha ha ha

So the bible is the word  of God to you, so why do you back then my earlier questions to you that adulterers and children who disobey should be put to death then?

Do you understand what genealogy is?

Surely all people would thus only be able to trace our genetic roots to 3 people Shem, Ham, and Japheth,?

Why is this though completely wrong and that many people descend way further back than these 3?


That is why it is important to know when the claim of the flood happened

no twisting or squirming needed...lol

of course the bible is the word of God..

who descends further back??

Oh my he fails to answer yet again

I can understand people believing in a deity, but not when it is off the back of stupidity, the teachings of Jesus, I can understand that but the faith you have is sheer comedy value HF.

Again if we know roughly the date of the flood from the bible as a source going backwards in time from people in this with ages, we can tell the time of the flood, if there is no archaeological evidence of such a global flood, of which we know there is not let alone to what time the bible places this in, then it did not happen. As we can see the claim to the flood would have happened a few thousand years ago, and humanity at no point within this time period was close to extinction, in fact we know humanity was close to extinction around 150,000 years ago, not in the time period of the claim to the flood. Not only that people would solely descend from Noah, which is not the case either, we would thus all be of Semitic origin, of which billions are not.


So on all counts the biblical flood is a load of bollocks

heavenly father wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

You seem to be struggling to read again. No one is discussing the age of the Earth, you claim to know the Bible better than anyone- you should then know that by reading the ages of people from Noah's time through his family lines down to Jesus, you CAN work out a rough period in human history when the flood is alleged to have happened. Do you understand that?

NOT how old Earth is but WHEN the flood happened.

thats cool and how does it help knowing when the flood roughly happened... :D 

Oh do keep up this is like discussing with a 10 year old...

If from the Bible we can gather the flood happened just a few thousand years ago then how can you explain the existence of Negroids and Mongoloids (that's black people and east-Asian people in case you didn't know)- if the flood wiped out all but Noah and his family a few thousand years ago then how do those people exist?

This was how we came to talk about the age of the flood remember. You are too much like hard work at times (Maine you must be a Saint to have to live with this man).

heavenly father wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

Can I just ask. If some devout Christian came to you and told you he had had a vision from God, would your first thought be that he was mad or that he was telling the truth?

If that person said he had a vision from God, and seemed genuine enough, and said that God had told him that homosexuality is in fact not a sin- would this affect whether you chose to believe him or not?

I would first weigh what was said with God's word, i would also look for another witness as the bible calls it..

so still sticking to that ideal i would know instantly by God's word it is a sin therefore would disregard the vision..

Why would you disregard it? The man KNOWS God spoke to him- how can you prove he didn't?

PhilDidge wrote:Oh my he fails to answer yet again

I can understand people believing in a deity, but not when it is off the back of stupidity, the teachings of Jesus, I can understand that but the faith you have is sheer comedy value HF.

Again if we know roughly the date of the flood from the bible as a source going backwards in time from people in this with ages, we can tell the time of the flood, if there is no archaeological evidence of such a global flood, of which we know there is not let alone to what time the bible places this in, then it did not happen. As we can see the claim to the flood would have happened a few thousand years ago, and humanity at no point within this time period was close to extinction, in fact we know humanity was close to extinction around 150,000 years ago, not in the time period of the claim to the flood. Not only that people would solely descend from Noah, which is not the case either, we would thus all be of Semitic origin, of which billions are not.


So on all counts the biblical flood is a load of bollocks

okay lets start again, so the generation from noah count back how far according to the bible...?

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:Oh my he fails to answer yet again

I can understand people believing in a deity, but not when it is off the back of stupidity, the teachings of Jesus, I can understand that but the faith you have is sheer comedy value HF.

Again if we know roughly the date of the flood from the bible as a source going backwards in time from people in this with ages, we can tell the time of the flood, if there is no archaeological evidence of such a global flood, of which we know there is not let alone to what time the bible places this in, then it did not happen. As we can see the claim to the flood would have happened a few thousand years ago, and humanity at no point within this time period was close to extinction, in fact we know humanity was close to extinction around 150,000 years ago, not in the time period of the claim to the flood. Not only that people would solely descend from Noah, which is not the case either, we would thus all be of Semitic origin, of which billions are not.


So on all counts the biblical flood is a load of bollocks

okay lets start again, so the generation from noah count back how far according to the bible...?

No you don't get off the hook that lightly, you are saying the bible is the word of God, thus it clearly is not the work of a deity:



From Adam to Jesus was a total of 4,000 years.  


* Adam to Seth ............. 130 yrs (Genesis 5:3) *
* Seth to Enos ............. 105 yrs (Genesis 5:6) *
* Enos to Cainan ............ 90 yrs (Genesis 5:9) *
* Cainan to Mahalaleel ...... 70 yrs (Genesis 5:12) *
* Mahalaleel to Jared ....... 65 yrs (Genesis 5:15) *
* Jared to Enoch ............ 162 yrs (Genesis 5:18) *
* Enoch to Methuselah ....... 65 yrs (Genesis 5:21) *
* Methuselah to Lamech ...... 187 yrs (Genesis 5:25) *
* Lamech to Noah ............ 182 yrs (Genesis 5:28-29) *
* Noah to the Flood ......... 600 yrs (Genesis 7:6) *
* Flood to Arphaxad ......... 2 yrs (Genesis 11:10) *
* Arphaxad to Salah ......... 35 yrs (Genesis 11:12) *
* Salah to Eber ............. 30 yrs (Genesis 11:14) *
* Eber to Peleg ............. 34 yrs (Genesis 11:16) *
* Peleg to Reu ............. 30 yrs (Genesis 11:18) *
* Reu to Serug ............. 32 yrs (Genesis 11:20) *
* Serug to Nahor ............ 30 yrs (Genesis 11:22) *
* Nahor to Terah ............ 29 yrs (Genesis 11:24) *
* Terah to Abraham .......... 70 yrs (Genesis 11:26) *
* ------- *
* Adam to Abraham .......... 1948 yrs (This same geneology
* is in Luke 3:34-38) *



Thus Jesus was born 4/5BC we take away 2295 years and come to a date of around 2300-2290BC when the flood is claimed to have happened.

How odd that mathematics would prove the bible is the work of men.

 :D

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

okay lets start again, so the generation from noah count back how far according to the bible...?

No you don't get off the hook that lightly, you are saying the bible is the word of God, thus it clearly is not the work of a deity:



From Adam to Jesus was a total of 4,000 years.  


* Adam to Seth ............. 130 yrs (Genesis 5:3) *
* Seth to Enos ............. 105 yrs (Genesis 5:6) *
* Enos to Cainan ............ 90 yrs (Genesis 5:9) *
* Cainan to Mahalaleel ...... 70 yrs (Genesis 5:12) *
* Mahalaleel to Jared ....... 65 yrs (Genesis 5:15) *
* Jared to Enoch ............ 162 yrs (Genesis 5:18) *
* Enoch to Methuselah ....... 65 yrs (Genesis 5:21) *
* Methuselah to Lamech ...... 187 yrs (Genesis 5:25) *
* Lamech to Noah ............ 182 yrs (Genesis 5:28-29) *
* Noah to the Flood ......... 600 yrs (Genesis 7:6) *
* Flood to Arphaxad ......... 2 yrs (Genesis 11:10) *
* Arphaxad to Salah ......... 35 yrs (Genesis 11:12) *
* Salah to Eber ............. 30 yrs (Genesis 11:14) *
* Eber to Peleg ............. 34 yrs (Genesis 11:16) *
* Peleg to Reu ............. 30 yrs (Genesis 11:18) *
* Reu to Serug ............. 32 yrs (Genesis 11:20) *
* Serug to Nahor ............ 30 yrs (Genesis 11:22) *
* Nahor to Terah ............ 29 yrs (Genesis 11:24) *
* Terah to Abraham .......... 70 yrs (Genesis 11:26) *
* ------- *
* Adam to Abraham .......... 1948 yrs (This same geneology
* is in Luke 3:34-38) *



Thus Jesus was born 4/5BC we take away 2295 years and come to a date of around 2300-2290BC when the flood is claimed to have happened.

lol...who's trying to get off the hook, checking what you think you know...

ok and again what proves it never happened then...?

PMSL there is no evidence of a global flood in 2300-2290BC

DOH

Many civilizations also were not wiped out either by any global flood or animals.

DOH

You follow man made works, nothing divine, as if this and many other parts are clearly false, then no such deity attributed to the bible exists.

So do you see how I was able to disprove your faith, as you defined the bible as the word of God, a clear case it is not.

DOH

PhilDidge wrote:PMSL there is no evidence of a global flood in 2300-2290BC

DOH

Many civilizations also were not wiped out either by any global flood or animals.

DOH

You follow man made works, nothing divine, as if this and many other parts are clearly false, then no such deity attributed to the bible exists.

So do you see how I was able to disprove your faith, as you defined the bible as the word of God, a clear case it is not.

DOH

and what evidence would there have been of a global flood??

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:PMSL there is no evidence of a global flood in 2300-2290BC

DOH

Many civilizations also were not wiped out either by any global flood or animals.

DOH

You follow man made works, nothing divine, as if this and many other parts are clearly false, then no such deity attributed to the bible exists.

So do you see how I was able to disprove your faith, as you defined the bible as the word of God, a clear case it is not.

DOH

and what evidence would there have been of a global flood??

Well being as there were plenty of civilizations around then, show me one that documents this flood happen with any of their reigns?
Where is the archaeological evidence for a global flood at this time, as it would show global catastrophe in the geological and cities on earth at the time.
None exist
Also do you understand geology?
If not be like talking to a dummy!

Your faith is based on a falsehood

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

and what evidence would there have been of a global flood??

Well being as there were plenty of civilizations around then, show me one that documents this flood happen with any of their reigns?
Where is the archaeological evidence for a global flood at this time, as it would show global catastrophe in the geological and cities on earth at the time.
None exist
Also do you understand geology?
If not be like talking to a dummy!

Your faith is based on a falsehood

lol if it occurred in relatively few days which the bible says it did, it destroyed all mankind, which the bible says it did what makes you think it would be recorded anywhere..

perhaps i'm looking in strange places but i have found lots of websites claiming a world wide devastation around that time...

perhaps i am being stupid I don't know..

Sorry did you just say it would not be recorded anywhere?
Except the bible of course?

 ://?roflmao?/: 

That still does not explain any geological or archaeological evidence for this flood 2300-2290BC even without that, even though again we would also see all civilizations fall and be destroyed with this flood, why do they continue without collapsing or being destroyed?

DOH, you just keep walking into these don;t you

So you just made your own counter absurd

So where is this evidence for world wide flood 2300-2290BC?

Holy crap on a cracker you really come out with balderdash

I forgot before I go, you think because it only happened over 40 days would not then affect the earth for decades even centuries to rebuild civilizations after only 8 people survive?

Give me a break you really show the true meaning to clutching at straws


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