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Post by SEXY MAMA on Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:33 pm

Didge wrote:
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Re READ my post again so it can sink in your thick head ffs

And here to prove my point on the insensitivities on some backward Muslims who do nothing to help progress Islam but keep in firmly stuck in the dark ages, where they think some words written 1400 years ago is enough to allow them to think two consenting adults in love is a sin.
They will not question sexual slavery or slavery itself endorse in the Quran, yet even within Islam, slavery has stopped in most Muslim countries and progressed, or were they wrong to do this also then you clueless idiot?

Lol you didn't read my post

So no point in 'debating' with you as you only like the sound of your own voice

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:35 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Didge wrote:

And here to prove my point on the insensitivities on some backward Muslims who do nothing to help progress Islam but keep in firmly stuck in the dark ages, where they think some words written 1400 years ago is enough to allow them to think two consenting adults in love is a sin.
They will not question sexual slavery or slavery itself endorse in the Quran, yet even within Islam, slavery has stopped in most Muslim countries and progressed, or were they wrong to do this also then you clueless idiot?

Lol you didn't read my post

So no point in 'debating' with you as you only like the sound of your own voice

Bye


Yes do run away when it get s too difficult for you to understand

islam once enndorsed slavery

It has now moved forward, proviong you are an immature child, failing to progress Islam into the 21st century and you and others are the cause of problems today for many Muslims as you simply will not allow yourself to tackle problems within your faith.
If you wish to keep ypur head perptually stuck in the sand and think you can judge people based on your faith.
Then youa re part of the problem of what is wrong with literal belief.

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:38 pm

Didge wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

Lol you didn't read my post

So no point in 'debating' with you as you only like the sound of your own voice

Bye


Yes do run away when it get s too difficult for you to understand

islam once enndorsed slavery

It has now moved forward, proviong you are an immature child, failing to progress Islam into the 21st century and you and others are the cause of problems today for many Muslims as you simply will not allow yourself to tackle problems within your faith.
If you wish to keep ypur head perptually stuck in the sand and think you can judge people based on your faith.
Then youa re part of the problem of what is wrong with literal belief.

Ffs it's like arguing with a child!

Mohammed pbuh abolished slavery

He also abolished female babies being killed by parents!

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:41 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Didge wrote:


Yes do run away when it get s too difficult for you to understand

islam once enndorsed slavery

It has now moved forward, proviong you are an immature child, failing to progress Islam into the 21st century and you and others are the cause of problems today for many Muslims as you simply will not allow yourself to tackle problems within your faith.
If you wish to keep ypur head perptually stuck in the sand and think you can judge people based on your faith.
Then youa re part of the problem of what is wrong with literal belief.

Ffs it's like arguing with a child!

Mohammed pbuh abolished slavery

He also abolished female babies being killed by parents!


No he did not abolsih slavery and even gave sex slaves to his warriors

or do you pick and chose what you believe in Islamic doctrine when it chooses you or forget that many Muslims believe that he did?

You see it is you the immature child controlled through your insecurities over death that lead you through fear to follow such a barabic deity.

The same I class for all the abrahamic faiths

This deity is not love but uses fear in order to gain love.

That is not love as its conditional.

You need to start loking at your faith with some honesty

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:43 pm

Didge wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

Ffs it's like arguing with a child!

Mohammed pbuh abolished slavery

He also abolished female babies being killed by parents!


No he did not abolsih slavery and even gave sex slaves to his warriors

or do you pick and chose what you believe in Islamic doctrine when it chooses you or forget that many Muslims believe that he did?

You see it is you the immature child controlled through your insecurities over death that lead you through fear to follow such a barabic deity.

The same I class for all the abrahamic faiths

This deity is not love but uses fear in order to gain love.

That is not love as its conditional.

You need to start loking at your faith with some honesty

What evidence do you have to support the rubbish you have posted?

Stop acting like Smelly and reading anti Islam sites.

Seriously you have made Smelly proud

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:44 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Didge wrote:


No he did not abolsih slavery and even gave sex slaves to his warriors

or do you pick and chose what you believe in Islamic doctrine when it chooses you or forget that many Muslims believe that he did?

You see it is you the immature child controlled through your insecurities over death that lead you through fear to follow such a barabic deity.

The same I class for all the abrahamic faiths

This deity is not love but uses fear in order to gain love.

That is not love as its conditional.

You need to start loking at your faith with some honesty

What evidence do you have to support the rubbish you have posted?

Stop acting like Smelly and reading anti Islam sites.

Seriously you have made Smelly proud



Defkections from an immature brat  again

Plenty of evidence

Are you claiming there is no hadiths claiming this?

Or do you want to run away you petulant little brat

Its idiots like you that see a rise in hate in Muslims withg your stupidity, when none of them should suffer because of your lies

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:49 pm

So no evidence

Shut the fuck up now

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:52 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:So no evidence

Shut the fuck up now


Evening SM.   Just ignore the stupid arse, he really isn't worth the oxygen.

 
Cue rant at me lol

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:54 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:So no evidence

Shut the fuck up now


What doctrines do you think ISIS use to endorse sex slaves then dummy?

I will give you a moment to reflect before I embarres you?

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:56 pm

FROM THE QURAN - 70:22-30
 
"Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord);  who restrain their carnal desire (save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them:  he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor..."
 


FROM THE QURAN - 23:5,6
"...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them..."



FROM THE QURAN - 4:24
"And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. (Muhammad Pickthall's English translation of the Quran).

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:11 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
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I've often wondered if as with the native American's that the people (linguistics) trying to give a written history to a tribe or sect would just skip over such topics or definitions/religious laws that the customs/locals knew and spoke of but those scholars just deemed too unseemly to put pen to paper? 
The reason that I'm suggesting this, was a very recent NPR study telelvised ...and this group of linguistics are trying to undo 100 years of native tribal languages being forbidden to be spoken by my fathers generation and punished & banished from my grand fathers generation!  
So many native languages gone without the written history and the elders that are still able to speak their unique dialect are struggling to remember specific words - like was there a word for GAY/LESBIAN in their native tongue ...and most often the different tribal groups have stated 'NO, they were just a mixed spirit, nothing to be treated differently - never banned from our tribe but not given a separate word - they just WERE!'

So I've wondered if this wasn't possible for the ancient (BC era) just because it wasn't given a specific line item in some ancient documents - didn't mean that there were'nt any GAY or LESBIANISM humans back then ...perhaps they just didn't give it a written notation  Can Islam Accommodate Homosexual Acts? Quranic Revisionism and the Case of Scott Kugle - Page 2 2190311264   
And what if they were more accepting then the scribes that used their own prejudices to write the Quran ...Mohammad certainly had quite a few heartfelt changes of his POV as he aged ...it's very plausible. IMO

Homosexuality is considered a sin and I don't think this point of view will change.
Maybe I'm not able to express my point as preciesly as I wish I could; what I'm trying to get out is that we all know that there are segments that were left out of the final draft of the BIBLE - could that not be possible for all of the other forms of the oldest religions known to mankind?

That with the vast distances between Islamic - Buddhist - Asian nations vs the African groups then up to the North America's ...so many forms of dialects and some many with no written linguistic history ...the best methods for spreading information was the 'story tellers'.  Things didn't always get translated verbatim - surely didn't get written down as line itemized worded text - couldn't it be possible that much like the BIBLE the sections about 'Sexual Morality' wasn't included until much later as an 'edited in section {like an after thought}?  Good Grief ...did that make any sense?  UGH

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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:04 pm

Fuzzy Zack wrote:Like SM implied, the Quran is very specific about homosexual practices being sinful.

That is simply non negotiable under any translation or interpretation.
And all of the other 'SINS' ? 
If any holy man was able to dictate morality and it be followed by the letter of that 'translation' then there would be no need for any future Mosques/Cathedrals/tent revivals/mega churches/little brown church in the vale Can Islam Accommodate Homosexual Acts? Quranic Revisionism and the Case of Scott Kugle - Page 2 2190311264 A one time lecture would have been all it took to get humanity on the straight and narrow line of living a righteous life and doing it according to the 'BOOK'.

But as with human nature and that 'free will thought process'; we just don't do as we're told and those sexual urges that aren't geared to run according to what a Holy Man dictates, seems to have been running amok since Adam & Eve!

BTW ...don't know if that 'PRINCESS' comment was directed to me, but I'll take being called that any day and if you meant it for SM, well at least my avatar/nickname was in the same quotation box!  Can Islam Accommodate Homosexual Acts? Quranic Revisionism and the Case of Scott Kugle - Page 2 2385359624

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Post by eddie on Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:01 am

So. What is the opinion on homosexuals within our society? I want to know, after two years, what this thread means to everyone.

I think we should take a leaf out of Tommy’s book and celebrate being gay and out! And accept everyone’s differences. Vive la tolerance! As he often says.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:05 am

eddie wrote:So. What is the opinion on homosexuals within our society? I want to know, after two years, what this thread means to everyone.

I think we should take a leaf out of Tommy’s book and celebrate being gay and out! And accept everyone’s differences. Vive la tolerance! As he often says.

Speaking of being gay and out, I went out today and had quite a gay time. I bought groceries, got some components for my e-cig, and had sex with another man.

Sometimes you just get that itch and you gotta scratch it, like Vintage often points out.

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:48 am

eddie wrote:So. What is the opinion on homosexuals within our society? I want to know, after two years, what this thread means to everyone.

I think we should take a leaf out of Tommy’s book and celebrate being gay and out! And accept everyone’s differences. Vive la tolerance! As he often says.

Who’s Tommy?


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Post by SEXY MAMA on Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:49 am

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:
eddie wrote:So. What is the opinion on homosexuals within our society? I want to know, after two years, what this thread means to everyone.

I think we should take a leaf out of Tommy’s book and celebrate being gay and out! And accept everyone’s differences. Vive la tolerance! As he often says.

Speaking of being gay and out, I went out today and had quite a gay time. I bought groceries, got some components for my e-cig, and had sex with another man.

Sometimes you just get that itch and you gotta scratch it, like Vintage often points out.

I’m always Gay n happy Cool

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:40 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
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eddie wrote:So. What is the opinion on homosexuals within our society? I want to know, after two years, what this thread means to everyone.

I think we should take a leaf out of Tommy’s book and celebrate being gay and out! And accept everyone’s differences. Vive la tolerance! As he often says.

Speaking of being gay and out, I went out today and had quite a gay time. I bought groceries, got some components for my e-cig, and had sex with another man.

Sometimes you just get that itch and you gotta scratch it, like Vintage often points out.

I’m always Gay n happy Cool

But sometimes happiness must take a back seat to blind obedience of the rules, much as edds is always saying.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:23 pm

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:
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I’m always Gay n happy Cool

But sometimes happiness must take a back seat to blind obedience of the rules, much as edds is always saying.

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Especially when it's eddie laying down the rules to you, hey Ben ???

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Post by eddie on Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:46 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

I’m always Gay n happy Cool

But sometimes happiness must take a back seat to blind obedience of the rules, much as edds is always saying.

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Especially when it's eddie laying down the rules to you,  hey Ben  ???

Oh no, wolf. I’m every man’s dream...yielding, cooperative yet independent, funny, softly feminine...and ready to crawl across the floor in PVC leather, to do whatver he wants, whenever he calls.


Why do you think I wore a collar on my wedding day? Cool



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Post by SEXY MAMA on Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:47 pm

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:
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I’m always Gay n happy Cool

But sometimes happiness must take a back seat to blind obedience of the rules, much as edds is always saying.

Happiness should NEVER take a back seat!

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