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A duo of Dutch comedians who run the Dit is Normaal YouTube channel pulled off a telling and incredibly timely stunt.
They purchased a copy of the Bible, wrapped it in a fake cover indicating that it was the Koran, and read out some particularly troubling passages to passersby.
At the end, they reveal that these lines were actually from Christianity's holy book, not that of Islam, much to the bewilderment of those caught on camera. The video has garnered more than 2 million views since it was uploaded Friday.
Here are some of the passages the comedians highlight:
To no great surprise, the people interviewed are not impressed and wonder aloud that violence is ingrained in Islam.
Some even suggest that the Bible is a more "positive" and "less harsh" religious tract.
This echoes a strain of thought now peddled by some prominent analysts and politicians, who pin the root causes of Islamist militancy on the fundamental nature of Islam itself — rather than more recent historical and political factors that have led to the rise of extremism in certain corners of the world.
As the video shows, though, all ancient religious texts carry language that we would now find disturbing.
"It's all just prejudice really. I always try not to be prejudiced myself, but apparently I already am," concludes one of the people hoodwinked by the experiment.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/12/07/watch-people-dont-know-the-bible-from-the-koran/?tid=pm_world_pop_b
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A duo of Dutch comedians who run the Dit is Normaal YouTube channel pulled off a telling and incredibly timely stunt.
They purchased a copy of the Bible, wrapped it in a fake cover indicating that it was the Koran, and read out some particularly troubling passages to passersby.
At the end, they reveal that these lines were actually from Christianity's holy book, not that of Islam, much to the bewilderment of those caught on camera. The video has garnered more than 2 million views since it was uploaded Friday.
Here are some of the passages the comedians highlight:
"If you reject my commands and abhor my laws you will eat the flesh of your own sons... and the flesh of your own daughters."
"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission."
"If two men sleep with each other they will both have to be killed."
To no great surprise, the people interviewed are not impressed and wonder aloud that violence is ingrained in Islam.
Some even suggest that the Bible is a more "positive" and "less harsh" religious tract.
This echoes a strain of thought now peddled by some prominent analysts and politicians, who pin the root causes of Islamist militancy on the fundamental nature of Islam itself — rather than more recent historical and political factors that have led to the rise of extremism in certain corners of the world.
As the video shows, though, all ancient religious texts carry language that we would now find disturbing.
"It's all just prejudice really. I always try not to be prejudiced myself, but apparently I already am," concludes one of the people hoodwinked by the experiment.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/12/07/watch-people-dont-know-the-bible-from-the-koran/?tid=pm_world_pop_b
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:So why have not the majority of the Muslim religious leaders Sexy, classified ISIS as apostates?
This would go a long way to seperate extremism from being associated to islam.
Lol! What makes you think they haven't condemned Isis?
Which ones haven't?
Do you need glasses?
What was asked?
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
Lol You said it much better than I did
Thanks Sis.
I'm glad we said exactly the same thing.
There are some on here who think we say any old shit just to suit us. Xxx
Hahaha!
You mean the Dail mail people who haven't met a Muslim in real life!
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
So is it not mentioned in the Koran at all?
Also, is it harder when Ramadan is in the summer? After all, the days are longer.
Off memory, the Quran states to guard certain parts of the body. From your private areas and maybe hair (not sure about the hair but I can check if it really bothers you). lol!
I was just trying to establish whether there was room for interpretation, and I've done that.
It doesn't bother me that much, although I really don't like those ghastly burkas at all.
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Copout again fvrom the immature child
Sexy claims ISIS arfe not Muslims
Muslim religious leaders condemn them, but not class them as apostates.
They thus stiull view them as Muslims
Problematic
I see both of you avoid like the plauge anything rational that makes your religion look absurd.
Again like I say to deify the hadiths and even claim what is authentic renders the quran obsolete
So again why is it that the vast majority of Muslim religious leaders classify all ISIS as apostates.
Its blasphemy to kill innocent people endorsing Allah in Islam and yet little is done on this, as how many Fatwahs have been issued against them?
Sexy claims ISIS arfe not Muslims
Muslim religious leaders condemn them, but not class them as apostates.
They thus stiull view them as Muslims
Problematic
I see both of you avoid like the plauge anything rational that makes your religion look absurd.
Again like I say to deify the hadiths and even claim what is authentic renders the quran obsolete
So again why is it that the vast majority of Muslim religious leaders classify all ISIS as apostates.
Its blasphemy to kill innocent people endorsing Allah in Islam and yet little is done on this, as how many Fatwahs have been issued against them?
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So do Muslims think that the sole purpose of hair is to keep one's head warm? After all, hair is natural, so why should it be covered?
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
I was just trying to establish whether there was room for interpretation, and I've done that.
It doesn't bother me that much, although I really don't like those ghastly burkas at all.
The burka is a week interpretation.
Only the prophet's wives were advised to wear them in public, to stop them being harrassed, abused or attacked.
They do annoy me a bit. I'm not saying I'd say anything to a woman wearing one, but they're so absurd and completely unnatural, and they look horrible. It's particularly annoying when I see a woman wearing one when out with a bloke who's dressed normally.
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Its simple Rags, its to control.
This happened for years in the Christian faith over women also.
To claim that women need to cover up is basically viewing women as a problem and not men.
I find that appalling as that women need to do so because some men cannot control themselves, thus placing the onus on women and not teaching men that it is wrong.
Its the biggest load oif bullshit ever to control women
This happened for years in the Christian faith over women also.
To claim that women need to cover up is basically viewing women as a problem and not men.
I find that appalling as that women need to do so because some men cannot control themselves, thus placing the onus on women and not teaching men that it is wrong.
Its the biggest load oif bullshit ever to control women
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Copout again fvrom the immature child
Sexy claims ISIS arfe not Muslims
Muslim religious leaders condemn them, but not class them as apostates.
No they class them as NOT Muslims
They thus stiull view them as Muslims
Problematic
I see both of you avoid like the plauge anything rational that makes your religion look absurd.
Again like I say to deify the hadiths and even claim what is authentic renders the quran obsolete
So again why is it that the vast majority of Muslim religious leaders classify all ISIS as apostates.
Its blasphemy to kill innocent people endorsing Allah in Islam and yet little is done on this, as how many Fatwahs have been issued against them?
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Its simple Rags, its to control.
This happened for years in the Christian faith over women also.
To claim that women need to cover up is basically viewing women as a problem and not men.
I find that appalling as that women need to do so because some men cannot control themselves, thus placing the onus on women and not teaching men that it is wrong.
Its the biggest load oif bullshit ever to control women
The women I know wear them for it themselves they are not forced to wear it by men
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Its simple Rags, its to control.
This happened for years in the Christian faith over women also.
To claim that women need to cover up is basically viewing women as a problem and not men.
I find that appalling as that women need to do so because some men cannot control themselves, thus placing the onus on women and not teaching men that it is wrong.
Its the biggest load oif bullshit ever to control women
But I think that the women who wear them are largely doing so voluntarily, so they're controlling themselves. It's a step way too far. There's modesty and then there's wearing something completely unnatural. They even have health problems with lack of Vitamin D.
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SEXY MAMA wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:Copout again fvrom the immature child
Sexy claims ISIS arfe not Muslims
Muslim religious leaders condemn them, but not class them as apostates.
No they class them as NOT Muslims
They thus stiull view them as Muslims
Problematic
I see both of you avoid like the plauge anything rational that makes your religion look absurd.
Again like I say to deify the hadiths and even claim what is authentic renders the quran obsolete
So again why is it that the vast majority of Muslim religious leaders classify all ISIS as apostates.
Its blasphemy to kill innocent people endorsing Allah in Islam and yet little is done on this, as how many Fatwahs have been issued against them?
Right here is why the faith of Islam is illogical
They claim we are all born Muslims.
Anyone then who is not a Muslim is an apostate.
Sexy claims ISIS are not Muslim,. but does not clsssify them as apostates.
If they are not Muslims, they must be apostates, being as we are all born Muslims according to Islam
Hence the absurdity of the religion.
So again why do not religious leaders clsssify ISIS as apostates, which would seperate extremism from islam.
It seems both sexy and Zack do not want to clsssify Muslims in ISIS as apostates.
That is very worrying
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Copout again fvrom the immature child
Sexy claims ISIS arfe not Muslims
Muslim religious leaders condemn them, but not class them as apostates.
They thus stiull view them as Muslims
Problematic
I see both of you avoid like the plauge anything rational that makes your religion look absurd.
I have answered all your questions so I think you are the one being irrational here!
Again like I say to deify the hadiths and even claim what is authentic renders the quran obsolete
So again why is it that the vast majority of Muslim religious leaders classify all ISIS as apostates.
Its blasphemy to kill innocent people endorsing Allah in Islam and yet little is done on this, as how many Fatwahs have been issued against them?
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No you have not sexy and this is what you always do, avoid.
Which is fine but you do not fill me and no doubt others that what you are doing and others is having no effect of stemming extremism. If you cannot even clsssify ISIS as apostates, then a question hangs over why you would not.
Its like Muslims are afraid to judge other Muslims
Which is fine but you do not fill me and no doubt others that what you are doing and others is having no effect of stemming extremism. If you cannot even clsssify ISIS as apostates, then a question hangs over why you would not.
Its like Muslims are afraid to judge other Muslims
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One Mufti who still cannot classify them as apostatess.
Not one example
Not one example
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Still not one that classifies them as apostates.
Is that it on fatwas also?
Seems the problem is worse than I thought
Is that it on fatwas also?
Seems the problem is worse than I thought
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Not been schooled at all.
Again show me any where they have been judged apostates?
Also you are not my friend remember lol
That was your choice when you had a hissy fit
So where is the hundreds of thousands of religious leades names?
Again show me any where they have been judged apostates?
Also you are not my friend remember lol
That was your choice when you had a hissy fit
So where is the hundreds of thousands of religious leades names?
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:No you have not sexy and this is what you always do, avoid.
Which is fine but you do not fill me and no doubt others that what you are doing and others is having no effect of stemming extremism. If you cannot even clsssify ISIS as apostates, then a question hangs over why you would not.
Its like Muslims are afraid to judge other Muslims
Ok what have I avoided?
Are they Apostates no cause I don't believe they were Muslims before! Its really that simple Didge
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Copout yet again
It was a simple question of which you could not answer
You both fail to see how that would help seperate extremism from Islam
Both of you fail to grasp that.
If Muslims thinking of joining saw that they would be condemned as apostates and denied then being viewed as Martyrs, this would no doubt make some thing twice of committing martydom.
Neither of you can grasp how to play on the religion itself to place fear back onto would be jihadis to stop them from joining
It was a simple question of which you could not answer
You both fail to see how that would help seperate extremism from Islam
Both of you fail to grasp that.
If Muslims thinking of joining saw that they would be condemned as apostates and denied then being viewed as Martyrs, this would no doubt make some thing twice of committing martydom.
Neither of you can grasp how to play on the religion itself to place fear back onto would be jihadis to stop them from joining
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Copout yet again
It was a simple question of which you could not answer
You both fail to see how that would help seperate extremism from Islam
Both of you fail to grasp that.
If Muslims thinking of joining saw that they would be condemned as apostates and denied then being viewed as Martyrs, this would no doubt make some thing twice of committing martydom.
Neither of you can grasp how to play on the religion itself to place fear back onto would be jihadis to stop them from joining
Erm what you on about?
All Imams have condemned them and have said so!
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SEXY MAMA wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:No you have not sexy and this is what you always do, avoid.
Which is fine but you do not fill me and no doubt others that what you are doing and others is having no effect of stemming extremism. If you cannot even clsssify ISIS as apostates, then a question hangs over why you would not.
Its like Muslims are afraid to judge other Muslims
Ok what have I avoided?
Are they Apostates no cause I don't believe they were Muslims before! Its really that simple Didge
Why do they call themselves the Islamic State then?
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:Not been schooled at all.
Again show me any where they have been judged apostates?
Also you are not my friend remember lol
That was your choice when you had a hissy fit
So where is the hundreds of thousands of religious leades names?
You really are sensitive.
It's about time you got over your hang ups and chill out. You might not have to delete this user profile too.
lol that has to be the worst attempt at goading an emotive response from a poster you have ever tried.
That really sums up the immaturity of relikgious literal believers.
Again your deity places emotions over reason.
Hate and vengence over love
That love is conditional, so its no surprise some Muslims like you fail to grasp emotions themselves.
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What about these girls from the UK who run off to join ISIS? Are they not real Muslims either?
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
Ok what have I avoided?
Are they Apostates no cause I don't believe they were Muslims before! Its really that simple Didge
Some just have yokes on their neck. ;-)
I seriously don't understand what he means by I avoid answering his questions!
Anyway I gota go now see you lot later xx
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Why do they call themselves the Islamic State then?
You could call yourself Islamic State.
I wouldn't though because I'm not a Muslim.
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:Copout yet again
It was a simple question of which you could not answer
You both fail to see how that would help seperate extremism from Islam
Both of you fail to grasp that.
If Muslims thinking of joining saw that they would be condemned as apostates and denied then being viewed as Martyrs, this would no doubt make some thing twice of committing martydom.
Neither of you can grasp how to play on the religion itself to place fear back onto would be jihadis to stop them from joining
And isn't this why you're so threatened: That so many are reverting?
Finally you reveal your true worries.
Hilarious again
I have no concerns, the onl;y ones is where children are brainwashed and have no choice over their faith.
Again Zack, your feebl attempts and trying to goad an emotive response are childish and it shows how you lack any experince of love.
Yours is one that is with an imaginary being, called Allah.
Its also very one sided
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:What about these girls from the UK who run off to join ISIS? Are they not real Muslims either?
Ever heard of grooming?
That's not an answer. If ISIS are not Muslims, does that mean the girls going off to join them are not Muslims either?
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I wouldn't though because I'm not a Muslim.
And nor are they.
Yes they are. I think you're just afraid to say they are because of what they're doing.
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What does sexy and zack fail to grasp with understanding classifying ISIS as apostates?
I am not denying some condemn them
That is not what is being asked here and how it would help seperate extremism from islam.
Its like trying toi teach two children, who are more fixated on defending their faith than seeing the reason in my point.
I am not denying some condemn them
That is not what is being asked here and how it would help seperate extremism from islam.
Its like trying toi teach two children, who are more fixated on defending their faith than seeing the reason in my point.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Fuzzy Zack wrote:
And nor are they.
Yes they are. I think you're just afraid to say they are because of what they're doing.
No they are not. The journalist who they held captive for 6 months, so he should know, says they are not. Says they were high as kites on drugs, didn't have Q'ran between them.
As the lady on Question Time said, you can call yourself a zerbra but you won't get any stripes.
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Hilarious again
I have no concerns, the onl;y ones is where children are brainwashed and have no choice over their faith.
Again Zack, your feebl attempts and trying to goad an emotive response are childish and it shows how you lack any experince of love.
Yours is one that is with an imaginary being, called Allah.
Its also very one sided
The only emotion I want from you is love.
Take care buddy and watch that blood pressure.
But Zack, you fail to understand love.
Happy to share any love with you (except any sexual lol), but like I said you got all upset over me even saying we were friends.
It shows you need to grow up
take care
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Yes they are. I think you're just afraid to say they are because of what they're doing.
No they are not. The journalist who they held captive for 6 months, so he should know, says they are not. Says they were high as kites on drugs, didn't have Q'ran between them.
As the lady on Question Time said, you can call yourself a zerbra but you won't get any stripes.
So what? A Christian might not have a Bible - that doesn't mean they're not a Christian.
They are Muslims.
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That's not an answer. If ISIS are not Muslims, does that mean the girls going off to join them are not Muslims either?
They are being groomed online. Many of them are victims and mistreated when they get there.
That's still not an answer. They are going off to join them because they're Muslims, right?
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Drugs is not prohibited in Islam
Alcohol is
There is only an interprettaion which claims to say this means all drugs, which would then mean no Muslim could ever have any life saving drugs, smoke cigs etc.
hence its only alcohol that is banned
Alcohol is
There is only an interprettaion which claims to say this means all drugs, which would then mean no Muslim could ever have any life saving drugs, smoke cigs etc.
hence its only alcohol that is banned
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