It took me six months to get from Syria to the UK. Now I want to live with dignity
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It took me six months to get from Syria to the UK. Now I want to live with dignity
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I never imagined that I would go through a journey like this. I am from Damascus and before the war my family was happy.
At first I thought the uprising against Assad was a great thing, and my brother and I went on marches, but soon it became too dangerous. Now you never know what will happen in Damascus. Every other day there are bombardments, shelling and mortars. I have lost many friends.
In Syria, military service is compulsory, unless you are studying or are a family’s only son. As I was coming to the end of my degree, I knew that I would be forced to join the army. I didn’t want to do this because the army is killing its own people. There are no good sides in the war in Syria now. It is a religious civil war – I didn’t want to be a part of that.
Finally I told my parents I was going to leave the country. I wanted to go to the UK because I speak English and hoped to continue my studies. I had also heard that it is a country that treats refugees fairly. My brother who is younger than me left too: he is in Sweden now. My mother, father and sister encouraged us to go, but could not make the journey as well because my father is too old. I don’t think he will ever leave Damascus, however dangerous, because he loves it too much, but I hope that one day I can help my mother and sister to leave.
In March I took a bus to Lebanon, then a plane from Lebanon to Turkey. I stayed in Turkey for three months, but that was hopeless. I found a job but the boss wouldn’t pay me. Then I got another job in a jeans factory, where at least they gave me something, but only half the salary of my Turkish colleagues, and it wasn’t really enough to live on.
I took a train to Edirne, on the border with Greece, then walked for 12 hours. I got to the third town after the border but I had no euros and no one would change my dollars. The police caught me sleeping on the street and took me to a detention centre. The next day they put me in a van with other refugees and drove us into a wood, near the river that forms the border with Turkey. The men who let us out of the van were not wearing police uniforms. They all had their faces covered and were carrying sticks: it reminded me of Isis. We were terrified because we didn’t know what they were going to do. Eventually they pushed and shoved us into boats and took us across the river and handed us over to the Turkish police.
In the end I paid a smuggler $1,000 to take me to Greece by boat. There were 47 of us, including three women and two children. We had to get into a van and drive for three hours to reach the boat. There were no windows, only two holes in the ceiling. Whenever someone was having trouble breathing, we let them stand by the hole.
The boat was even worse. I don’t think there should have been more than 20 people in it. We were all very scared. I was sitting by the motor and there was water everywhere. The engine was puffing smoke in my face, making me throw up. After 10 minutes the smuggler abandoned the boat and told one of the refugees to drive us. Of course he didn’t know the way. He started following a light, but it turned out to be the light of another boat.
The other passengers were reading the Qur’an and praying we would be safe. I covered my face and tried not to think about it. I had no control over what was happening, so in my heart I gave myself to God and just hoped and prayed that nothing would happen.
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Syrian and Afghan refugees are helped ashore by locals after their dinghy deflated just off the coast of the Greek island of Lesbos. Photograph: Alkis Konstantinidis/Reuters
We were in the boat for five and a half hours before we saw an island. We ran out of gas before we reached it and had to call the Greek coastguard to beg for help. The coastguards threw us a rope to hold on to and towed us to land.
From there I took more boats, buses and trains to western Europe. A lot of the time you have to walk: people call it the “ant road” because of that. There were women with children and old people, which made me sad to see. It was difficult enough for me – how did they manage it?
When I reached the Serbian border I walked through the woods to avoid checkpoints. I followed a group of refugees who had a smuggler with them to find the way. In Belgrade I was robbed at gunpoint in a hostel, but I also met a man who let me stay at his house because he too had been a refugee once.
We had to avoid towns so we wouldn’t be caught by the police, and instead walked through farmland in Serbia and Hungary. I was with some other refugees when we met a smuggler who said he would take us to Austria by car, but instead he drove us to the border of Hungary and never came back. In Hungary the police caught us and put us on a train. When it stopped at a station they were taking everyone off, and in the rush I managed to escape and jump on another train that was going to Budapest. I was very lucky but I lost my bag. From there I got trains to France. When a ticket collector started asking for passports I hid in the toilets.
Finally I got to Calais. I only knew one person who had been to the “jungle” and I think she must have lied to me. She said it was a nice place, but it was hell. It was freezing and I had no tent, no sleeping bag or warm clothes. We were given one meal a day. If you want to stay in France you have to wait there for four months. I would never stay there after the way they treated us. It was the lowest point of my journey.
To get to the UK I attempted to jump on a train, but it was too hard. Seeing people coming back injured after trying was awful. So I went to the port. When the lorries slow down outside, people open the back and jump in: the drivers don’t know you are there. I had tried before, but they always stopped us at the French checkpoint and you have to go back to the jungle and try again. Finally I managed to jump into a lorry with car motors inside. There was very little room and it was very uncomfortable but the lorry had a soft top so I wasn’t worried about suffocating. There were three of us in there. We didn’t make any noise until we reached Dover.
Now I am in the UK I feel safe and happy. Compared to the other places I passed through and the way I was treated it is great. I am waiting to meet a lawyer and get my papers. I want to do a translation course so I can work. My only regret is that my family aren’t here with me. The bombing has got worse since I left and I am very scared for them.
I wish people understood that refugees are fleeing from a bad situation. We are not here to take your jobs, or to behave badly. We know we are guests and we are grateful for your help. We think it is very humane of Europe to take us.
Do I think the journey was worth the risk? At the time I didn’t know. I just wanted to get somewhere I could live with a bit of dignity.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/15/syria-uk-damascus-refugee-people-smugglers-calais-jungle
Think that speaks for itself. Very glad to say I have become part of a network that is spread all over the UK trying to help refugees and the support it has received is absolutely phenomenal. As Sandy Toksvig said on QT last night, Brits are much kinder than the Daily Mail would have you believe.
I never imagined that I would go through a journey like this. I am from Damascus and before the war my family was happy.
At first I thought the uprising against Assad was a great thing, and my brother and I went on marches, but soon it became too dangerous. Now you never know what will happen in Damascus. Every other day there are bombardments, shelling and mortars. I have lost many friends.
In Syria, military service is compulsory, unless you are studying or are a family’s only son. As I was coming to the end of my degree, I knew that I would be forced to join the army. I didn’t want to do this because the army is killing its own people. There are no good sides in the war in Syria now. It is a religious civil war – I didn’t want to be a part of that.
Finally I told my parents I was going to leave the country. I wanted to go to the UK because I speak English and hoped to continue my studies. I had also heard that it is a country that treats refugees fairly. My brother who is younger than me left too: he is in Sweden now. My mother, father and sister encouraged us to go, but could not make the journey as well because my father is too old. I don’t think he will ever leave Damascus, however dangerous, because he loves it too much, but I hope that one day I can help my mother and sister to leave.
In March I took a bus to Lebanon, then a plane from Lebanon to Turkey. I stayed in Turkey for three months, but that was hopeless. I found a job but the boss wouldn’t pay me. Then I got another job in a jeans factory, where at least they gave me something, but only half the salary of my Turkish colleagues, and it wasn’t really enough to live on.
I took a train to Edirne, on the border with Greece, then walked for 12 hours. I got to the third town after the border but I had no euros and no one would change my dollars. The police caught me sleeping on the street and took me to a detention centre. The next day they put me in a van with other refugees and drove us into a wood, near the river that forms the border with Turkey. The men who let us out of the van were not wearing police uniforms. They all had their faces covered and were carrying sticks: it reminded me of Isis. We were terrified because we didn’t know what they were going to do. Eventually they pushed and shoved us into boats and took us across the river and handed us over to the Turkish police.
In the end I paid a smuggler $1,000 to take me to Greece by boat. There were 47 of us, including three women and two children. We had to get into a van and drive for three hours to reach the boat. There were no windows, only two holes in the ceiling. Whenever someone was having trouble breathing, we let them stand by the hole.
The boat was even worse. I don’t think there should have been more than 20 people in it. We were all very scared. I was sitting by the motor and there was water everywhere. The engine was puffing smoke in my face, making me throw up. After 10 minutes the smuggler abandoned the boat and told one of the refugees to drive us. Of course he didn’t know the way. He started following a light, but it turned out to be the light of another boat.
The other passengers were reading the Qur’an and praying we would be safe. I covered my face and tried not to think about it. I had no control over what was happening, so in my heart I gave myself to God and just hoped and prayed that nothing would happen.
Facebook Twitter Pinterest
Syrian and Afghan refugees are helped ashore by locals after their dinghy deflated just off the coast of the Greek island of Lesbos. Photograph: Alkis Konstantinidis/Reuters
We were in the boat for five and a half hours before we saw an island. We ran out of gas before we reached it and had to call the Greek coastguard to beg for help. The coastguards threw us a rope to hold on to and towed us to land.
From there I took more boats, buses and trains to western Europe. A lot of the time you have to walk: people call it the “ant road” because of that. There were women with children and old people, which made me sad to see. It was difficult enough for me – how did they manage it?
When I reached the Serbian border I walked through the woods to avoid checkpoints. I followed a group of refugees who had a smuggler with them to find the way. In Belgrade I was robbed at gunpoint in a hostel, but I also met a man who let me stay at his house because he too had been a refugee once.
We had to avoid towns so we wouldn’t be caught by the police, and instead walked through farmland in Serbia and Hungary. I was with some other refugees when we met a smuggler who said he would take us to Austria by car, but instead he drove us to the border of Hungary and never came back. In Hungary the police caught us and put us on a train. When it stopped at a station they were taking everyone off, and in the rush I managed to escape and jump on another train that was going to Budapest. I was very lucky but I lost my bag. From there I got trains to France. When a ticket collector started asking for passports I hid in the toilets.
Finally I got to Calais. I only knew one person who had been to the “jungle” and I think she must have lied to me. She said it was a nice place, but it was hell. It was freezing and I had no tent, no sleeping bag or warm clothes. We were given one meal a day. If you want to stay in France you have to wait there for four months. I would never stay there after the way they treated us. It was the lowest point of my journey.
To get to the UK I attempted to jump on a train, but it was too hard. Seeing people coming back injured after trying was awful. So I went to the port. When the lorries slow down outside, people open the back and jump in: the drivers don’t know you are there. I had tried before, but they always stopped us at the French checkpoint and you have to go back to the jungle and try again. Finally I managed to jump into a lorry with car motors inside. There was very little room and it was very uncomfortable but the lorry had a soft top so I wasn’t worried about suffocating. There were three of us in there. We didn’t make any noise until we reached Dover.
Now I am in the UK I feel safe and happy. Compared to the other places I passed through and the way I was treated it is great. I am waiting to meet a lawyer and get my papers. I want to do a translation course so I can work. My only regret is that my family aren’t here with me. The bombing has got worse since I left and I am very scared for them.
I wish people understood that refugees are fleeing from a bad situation. We are not here to take your jobs, or to behave badly. We know we are guests and we are grateful for your help. We think it is very humane of Europe to take us.
Do I think the journey was worth the risk? At the time I didn’t know. I just wanted to get somewhere I could live with a bit of dignity.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/15/syria-uk-damascus-refugee-people-smugglers-calais-jungle
Think that speaks for itself. Very glad to say I have become part of a network that is spread all over the UK trying to help refugees and the support it has received is absolutely phenomenal. As Sandy Toksvig said on QT last night, Brits are much kinder than the Daily Mail would have you believe.
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Re: It took me six months to get from Syria to the UK. Now I want to live with dignity
victorismyhero wrote:an answer to that point Sassy.....
corby certainly DID say he was in favour of abolishing our armed forces.......and has stated he see's no situation where he would use them abroad
so whats he going to use em for (if he keeps them) to supress the british people???
to control the inevitable uprising?
Wrong, he said he saw no situation that he would use a nuclear weapon and very few cases for using troops. After all, our troops have really been used for a good reason lately haven't they, like Iraq, Afghanistan etc.
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Re: It took me six months to get from Syria to the UK. Now I want to live with dignity
victorismyhero wrote:sassy wrote:
No he doesn't, he is against Trident, as am I, but is FOR keeping up our obligations to NATO, which includes the Armed Forces. If you are going to go on about something, at least get your facts straight. And he has top economists, including Paul Krugman, a Nobel Prize winning economist, who said his plan is the only one that will get us out of this mess and the continuation of austerity will continue being a failure.
REALLY....perhaps you could explain this then??
By Victor Morton - The Washington Times - Sunday, September 13, 2015
The man who will take over the leadership of one of Britain’s two major parties has said Britain should abolish its armed forces.
New Labor Party leader Jeremy Corbyn made the remarks against the existence of military units in 2012, at an atomic-bomb memorial ceremony in Japan, The Sun reported.
“Wouldn’t it be wonderful if every politician around the world instead of taking pride in the size of their armed forces did what the people of Costa Rica have done and abolished the army and took pride in the fact that they don’t have an army … surely that is the way we should be going forward,” Mr. Corbyn said.
The Sun went on to report that “two weeks ago Mr. Corbyn admitted he ‘couldn’t think’ of a situation in which he would deploy British troops.”
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Re: It took me six months to get from Syria to the UK. Now I want to live with dignity
The Sun reported. Well, and The Sun never distorts anything does it.
Thought you have more intelligence. As JC said, 'I wouldn't know what they said because I don't read it'.
Thought you have more intelligence. As JC said, 'I wouldn't know what they said because I don't read it'.
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Re: It took me six months to get from Syria to the UK. Now I want to live with dignity
another of those fools who hopes that if he feeds the crocodile it will eat him last
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Re: It took me six months to get from Syria to the UK. Now I want to live with dignity
victorismyhero wrote:another of those fools who hopes that if he feeds the crocodile it will eat him last
Oh yes, those fools who think you should actually talk, because in the end, you have to.
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Re: It took me six months to get from Syria to the UK. Now I want to live with dignity
yeah...talk with isis
then what...oh yes...give in to their every demand...becasue if you dont they will bomb you....
you cannot reason/talk with these people....THEY are not "reasonable people" never have been and never will...they have their eye set on their "caliphate"
then what...oh yes...give in to their every demand...becasue if you dont they will bomb you....
you cannot reason/talk with these people....THEY are not "reasonable people" never have been and never will...they have their eye set on their "caliphate"
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Re: It took me six months to get from Syria to the UK. Now I want to live with dignity
sassy wrote:The Sun reported. Well, and The Sun never distorts anything does it.
Thought you have more intelligence. As JC said, 'I wouldn't know what they said because I don't read it'.
You were quite keen on The Sun 20 minutes ago.
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