The state of homophobia in the west

First topic message reminder :

The collective out pouring of support for gay marriage on social media has been both astonishing and heart warming over the past few days. I always knew that most people today had positive views on this subject- but wasn't quite aware just how much the tide really is now massively against those who cling to homophobia.

I used to hear, when I first joined Sky, how 'the militant homosexual agenda' would eventually result in a 'backlash' against the gay community- it doesn't seem to be happened- far from it, the opposite is the case.

I love western society for this for the most part. And look forward to many other places around the world following the precedent we have set on matters of equality  

Meanwhile, here is some of the best of Facebook, just letting those against know the extent of just how far their backward views have fallen in the eyes of many...

The rainbow tide


Homophobes terminated


Ooops...

veya_victaous wrote:OK Slowly
x= y

-y+y =0
so this is still the same
x - y + y =  y

Divide both by x-y
x - y + y       y
--------- =  ---
   x-y           x-y

Separate the Fraction (i added the step to make it easier to follow and you still cant   )
x-y    y        y
--- + --- =  ---
x-y   x-y      x-y

now  when top and bottom of a fraction are the same it equals 1
x-y  
--- = 1
x-y  

so replace the faction with 1 since they are equal  
        y         y
  1 + ---  =  ---
       x-y       x-y

subtract
  y
 ---
 x-y
from both sides of the equation and your left with

        1   = 0

Umm NO just no Tommy maybe you didin't read the bit i just bolded for you

When both the top and bottom of a fraction are the same it equal 1 example if you have 6 6ths of something you have the whole of it so you have 1

For those playing at home it
the broken bit is

Divide both by x-y
x - y + y y
--------- = ---
x-y x-y

because IF x=y than x-y =0 and you cannot divide by zero and get a real number. Complex numbers exist for concepts like Negative speeds

Well done... give that man a dingleberry...!!!

x-y over x-y = 0 over 0 which equals 0 you dumb fuck!!!



So as seen you pull this bullshit +1 out of your dingleberry collection and try to add it to true mathematics!!!



Bit like how you lefties try to add all sorts of other bullshit to truth to further your 'progressive' agenda!!!



All at +1 bullshit goose step at a time...!!!



Start at the bottom counting the dingleberries veya...!!!





And YOU are allowed to vote...???


When you can't even count properly...!!!???







Most amusing!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:

x-y over x-y = 0 over 0 which equals 0 you dumb fuck!!!
LOL wtf are you on
x-y over x-y = 1
it only equals 0 if x=y


So as seen you pull this bullshit +1 out of your dingleberry collection and try to add it to true mathematics!!!



Bit like how you lefties try to add all sorts of other bullshit to truth to further your 'progressive' agenda!!!



All at +1 bullshit goose step at a time...!!!



Start at the bottom counting the dingleberries veya...!!!





And YOU are allowed to vote...???


When you can't even count properly...!!!???







Most amusing!!!

OK never talk about education getting worse cause you are SO DUMB

I cant even continue you are just unable to count
or follow mathematics...

Literally TOMMY If i am wrong MAN WOULD NEVER HAVE REACHED THE MOON
You need it to work out Pi...

you level of ignorance Should make you ashamed.

LIKE other have pointed out YOU SAYING something does not make it true not matter how many times you say it

FACTS real facts people use at universities to achieve REAL things
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ComplexNumber.html
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/RealNumber.html

What a twat you are showing yourself to be here veya!!!!!!!!



You just said...

"LOL wtf are you on
x-y over x-y = 1
it only equals 0 if x=y"








Have you forgotten that the first premise of your bollocks was the statement that x=y...!!!???



Therefore in your whole load of bollocks, x-y does = 0 and you have just proved your own bollocks to be bollocks for the very reasons I have already said!!!!!!




This is comedy gold!!!






What a twat!!!

"Literally TOMMY If i am wrong MAN WOULD NEVER HAVE REACHED THE MOON"



Wow!!!

did you try that in school?
You would have got ZERO
the POINT IS THE WORKING NOT THE ANSWER
You are trying to prove x= y so you cant take what you are trying to prove as the proof

IF you read what a complex number is you would realize that as soon as you make that statements  you are No longer looking at absolutes but theoretical numbers THAT WERE USED TO work out the theory of relativity and much of the rocket science used to get man to the moon

here is it simplified in Video


the answer is Actually either xi or yi

veya_victaous wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:OK Slowly
x= y









-y+y =0
so this is still the same
x - y + y =  y

Divide both by x-y
x - y + y       y
--------- =  ---
   x-y           x-y

Separate the Fraction (i added the step to make it easier to follow and you still cant   )
x-y    y        y
--- + --- =  ---
x-y   x-y      x-y

now  when top and bottom of a fraction are the same it equals 1
x-y  
--- = 1
x-y  

so replace the faction with 1 since they are equal  
        y         y
  1 + ---  =  ---
       x-y       x-y

subtract
  y
 ---
 x-y
from both sides of the equation and your left with

        1   = 0

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Did you read the bit I bolded for you...?




I do hope so...



Most amusing!!!

LOL no wonder you're so dumb
at school when you sat an exam you wrote the question as the answer

And YOU said...




"LOL wtf are you on
x-y over x-y = 1
it only equals 0 if x=y"




Proving exactly what I said!!!



But being a leftie twat you will probably still try to carry on twisting and denying what is clear for all to see!!!



What a twat!!!



Best you get back to counting those dingleberries that You have stuck up your arse hole veya...!!!



Leave the intelligent conversations to those... well... how can I put this...???



THOSE WITH INTELLIGENCE!!!!!!!!







What a twat!!!

veya_victaous wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:OK Slowly
x= y

-y+y =0
so this is still the same
x - y + y =  y

Divide both by x-y
x - y + y       y
--------- =  ---
   x-y           x-y

Separate the Fraction (i added the step to make it easier to follow and you still cant   )
x-y    y        y
--- + --- =  ---
x-y   x-y      x-y

now  when top and bottom of a fraction are the same it equals 1
x-y  
--- = 1
x-y  

so replace the faction with 1 since they are equal  
        y         y
  1 + ---  =  ---
       x-y       x-y

subtract
  y
 ---
 x-y
from both sides of the equation and your left with

        1   = 0

Umm NO just no Tommy maybe you didin't read the bit i just bolded for you

When both the top and bottom of a fraction are the same it equal 1  example if you have 6 6ths of something you have the whole of it so you have 1  

And when you have zero parts of zero...?


As your first premise was that x=y... so therefore x-y=0 And x-y over x-y also equals zero over zero which equals zero...



Not +1 as you have tried to claim previously while now admitting that this actually equals zero...!!!???

Is all this now clear enough for you too now les...!!!???



Or do you need someone to translate this basic 'math' into a format your tiny mind can understand...!?

You cant put two statements together DUMB ASS
You just failed

This was not something i made up this is an exam question YOU FAILED
You got it wrong
Now ACCEPT IT or take it up with a mathematics lecturer

AS les said this is MATH not a soft subject there are hard answers
YOU ARE WRONG
doesn't matter how many times you post Wrong logic in attempt to validate your answer
YOU are wrong, YOU got a Big red cross next to you answer.

another one

x = y.
Then x2 = xy.
Subtract the same thing from both sides:
x2 - y2 = xy - y2.
Dividing by (x-y), obtain
x + y = y.
Since x = y, we see that
2 y = y.
Thus 2 = 1, since we started with y nonzero.
Subtracting 1 from both sides,
1 = 0.


and 0 divided by 0 is not 0 it is infinity or 1
how many times can you split 0 into 0 parts
Endless times or 1 time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero


This the sort of maths used to track the trajectory of the moon and rockets trying to hit the moon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indeterminate_form

The indeterminate form 0/0 is particularly common in calculus because it often arises in the evaluation of derivatives using their limit definition.
The indeterminate forms typically considered in the literature are denoted 0/0, ∞/∞, 0 × ∞, ∞ − ∞, 00, 1∞ and ∞0.

More bollocks I see...



Are you now trying to say that You must be right because someone else in a bigger white coat said so...!!!???







What a twat!!!



Exam questions can be wrong sometimes veya...



Your own hypothesis states firstly that...


x=y


Then...


You claim that...


x-y over x-y = 1


While then later going on to state that...


x-y over x-y = 0... when x=y... which it does in your original statement!!!



I don't care where something is written or claimed or by who in this context... the maths is wrong!!!


And not only proven by itself and by me... but proven by you and by your own statements!!!



Are you so stupid as to now start to claim that although all this has been proven to be bollocks by all of us, that it must still be right because you subsequently claim that it is part of some hypothetical exam paper...!!!???



You are a complete tit veya!!!



And more of a parrot than anyone else if you continue to repeat the 'truth' after it has been completely shown up to be bollocks...



Or maybe just a typical leftie!!!




The truth must be wrong if the truth is not correct!!!

I don't and never claimed to have any understanding of this kind of math, tommy. I'm sure if I bothered to look at it I would but I don't really care, I don't need to know, and there are many other things that interest me and are more worth my time.

What I was more interested in was how YOU explained your 'bollocks' claim, but you never did.

See this was never about math, it was about seeing if you could actually explain your reasoning for once, and you couldn't.

I see however in a shameless attempt to divert from your failings you are trying to have a dig at me. I'm not mathematician and wouldn't claim to be, I know what I need to, I was just enjoying the show- kind of like how Romans enjoyed seeing prisoners get ripped apart by lions

post a link
or accept you are wrong

again this is Maths these are hard answers

YES it is very much part of an exam once you get out of little kids maths. You know the sort we use to ACTUALLY DO STUFF like reach the moon
http://www.math.uh.edu/~dblecher/C2stuff/C2test/1432T4AAnswers.pdf
the Answer to the First question

LOLZ Tommy it is Calculus 101 this is not disputed it is one of the most basic concepts of advanced mathematics.

Eilzel wrote:I don't and never claimed to have any understanding of this kind of math, tommy. I'm sure if I bothered to look at it I would but I don't really care, I don't need to know, and there are many other things that interest me and are more worth my time.

What I was more interested in was how YOU explained your 'bollocks' claim, but you never did.

See this was never about math, it was about seeing if you could actually explain your reasoning for once, and you couldn't.

I see however in a shameless attempt to divert from your failings you are trying to have a dig at me. I'm not mathematician and wouldn't claim to be, I know what I need to, I was just enjoying the show- kind of like how Romans enjoyed seeing prisoners get ripped apart by lions

Yes this wasn't about maths....  but Tommy is proving how incredible ignorant he is and basically just keeps digging
there is reason Victor knew exactly what i was doing from the first post it is something that almost every maths lecturer will go through during first year university in any mathematical subject that required complex numbers (engineers definitely do)

Try reading my ripping apart of veya and his bollocks...



I assure you that it has been well explained and shown for the bollocks it is!!!



And is a very basic level of maths too les...



But as veya has also claimed... if you can't follow this simple stuff then you shouldn't be allowed to vote!!!






That means you les!!!



So what do you have to say about veya telling you that you are too stupid to be allowed to vote...!!!???





But don't get too upset... he has excluded himself too with the same logic!!!

Veya...







Your own hypothesis states firstly that...


x=y


Then...


You claim that...


x-y over x-y = 1


While then later going on to state that...


x-y over x-y = 0... when x=y... which it does in your original statement!!!




Unfortunately for you... you have already made this other conclusive statement...


"AS les said this is MATH not a soft subject there are hard answers "



And YOU have provided all the above answers... and they can't all be right!!!



Although you are still trying to argue that they all are in true leftie fashion!!!




Oh... this is real comedy gold!!!



It's hook line and sinker here by yourself, on yourself and with your own rod and tackle!!!!!!!!



(Almost) unbelievable!!!







What a twat!!!!!!!

Hey Tommy, I was hoping you could enlighten us.

How does it feel to be an actual living relic of history?

I think it would be fascinating. Like if Coelocanth was semi-cognisant, you know? I'm sure there's so much you can tell us about how things used to be.

I'm only a couple of years older than you Benjy... but that could mean anything in the twisted minds of the lefties...!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:I'm only a couple of years older than you Benjy... but that could mean anything in the twisted minds of the lefties...!!!

I think you're at least a few centuries older than me if we're talking about real age ...

Your mental age is most certainly much younger than mine...

Tommy Monk wrote:Your mental age is most certainly much younger than mine...

Beats going senile, granpa

At your rate you will be going straight from stupid to senile...

Tommy Monk wrote:At your rate you will be going straight from stupid to senile...

Wow, that stung ... Seriously, man, you've got to try harder than that. If I'm the young guy and you're the old man in this verbal volleyball scenario -- and I'm just speaking from the top of my head here -- you could have at least made an analogy between me getting upset and me shaking my rattle, for example. Or maybe you can hear my voice cracking even as you read my posts. You could go crude, and ask me if I'm noticing hair that I didn't have before, or rise above it and tell me to go post some more selfies or tweet something. For Christ's sake, I'm tired and I can come up with better.

Your retorts, just offering constructive criticism here, just sound like a tired old mind that was probably wasn't capable of heavy lifting even in youth. I mean, I would seriously much rather be sparring with Victor, who's chronologically older than me but at least keeps me on my toes ... please just give it a bit more effort, because I'd like to have a little fun here.

Carry on tommy, you are clearly missing points, you claimed to know something then failed to explain your reasoning when offered the chance. Much like your unreasoned assertions on the position of the moon, homosexuality, ethnic minorities and so on...

they gays still aren't arguing they are a tiny, tiny minority are they, my goodness talk about blind to the facts....

Tommy Monk wrote:

Veya...







Your own hypothesis states firstly that...


x=y


Then...


You claim that...


x-y over x-y = 1


While then later going on to state that...


x-y over x-y = 0... when x=y... which it does in your original statement!!!




Unfortunately for you... you have already made this other conclusive statement...


"AS les said this is MATH not a soft subject there are hard answers "



And YOU have provided all the above answers... and they can't all be right!!!



Although you are still trying to argue that they all are in true leftie fashion!!!




Oh... this is real comedy gold!!!



It's hook line and sinker here by yourself, on yourself and with your own rod and tackle!!!!!!!!



(Almost) unbelievable!!!







What a twat!!!!!!!

Veya ...I think Tommy monk-ey's cage has been rattled.....hes resorted to the "twat" rhetoric again...always a sure sign hes been caned.

and of course, being Tommy he tetally failed to miss the point, which Les so eloquently espoused there....

ok for tommy's benefit I will try to explain the thing that has ripped his singular brain cell in two

IF we have the condition where for any two numbers x and y

AS the value of x approaches the value of y

the equation x-y clearly approches 0

and therefor the equation x-y/ x-y tends to 0/0

for ALL non zero values of x and y

this will be 1 (obviously)

when x-y the value of x-y becomes 0 and there is a step change (which is why division by zero is normaly considered undefined)
however this entirely depends on the framework within which the mathematics is being used

divison by zero of any non zero value is ALWAYS undefined, and generally signifies an incorrect formulation or a formula unsuitable to describe the situation (or an operator error)

However division by zero of zero itself is regarded as a special case....It is particularly of interest to those involved in the science of "fuzzy logic" whereby a program can look at results and choose a likey answer to "play with"

in such cases the program will select either that 0/0 = 1
or that 0/0 = infinity
(fuzzy logic maths being the ONLY system of maths that can actually handle the idea of infinity as a mathematical "object")

and proceed from there...

if one choice fails to produce a "resonable result" it will reject it and use the other....

in the case of the two very simple formulas above, fuzzy logic would reject BOTH of them since the end result of either logic (that of 0/0 being either 1 or infinity) leads to paradoxical solutions..
(that either 1 = 2 OR 1 = infinity)
however this is not necessarily the case for all formulae especially those involved in "higher maths and physics" and certainly NOT the case in formulae involving complex numbers of the form

"A complex number is a number that can be expressed in the form a + bi, where a and b are real numbers and i is the imaginary unit, that satisfies the equation x2 = −1, that is, i2 = −1. In this expression, a is the real part and b is the imaginary part of the complex number."

but ...the point wasnt this lesson in maths, which is clearly beyond you....


it was a succesful experiment in "plucking the parrot"

back to your cage polly........

the math is irrelevant , you cannot prove by math homosexuality is either natural or normal, the math is far more likely to prove homosexuality is unnatural...

its only you thats trying to do that...at what point did it escape you that the "maths was actually not the point, and that tommy's imbecillic reaction to it WAS

Oh my word... I can't believe what I'm reading here...



I pointed out the bollocks a couple of nights ago and then when I could be bothered, I explained in plenty of detail as to why it was bollocks!!!


But the idiots are still trying to claim otherwise and claim some sort of victory in all this!!!



You really must try harder girls...!!!

Tommy proving yet again he is sexist.
He thinks its an insult to class people as female.
So easy to catch Tommy Blooper out just as Veya and Victor have.

I could just imagine Tommy's face the whole way throughout this.

Yawn...!


You seriously think that I've been aught out in any way dodge!!!???






Maths has never been your strong point has it...

Its way better than yours lol
Or do you want to go on about Rotherham again based on your numbers lol.
Behave you just got a master class and exposed for being sexist, again.

Never mind Tommy Blooper, it was great entertainment for many of us.





Thanks to Victor and Veya, I must say

Catch you all later

Completely deluded...

I have to come to the conclusion that gays have no proof that homophobia even exists other than in their own heads!!

then again HF your conclusions rest on the foundation of nothing so....

homophobia is a made up word to try and make people feel bad that they disagree with gays , i don't fear anyone least of all gays , why the hell would i fear them .

Vicar of Dibley wrote:homophobia is a made up word to try and make people feel bad that they disagree with gays , i don't fear anyone least of all gays , why the hell would i fear them .

All words are 'made up' obviously- and even a simpleton knows what homophobia means.

Can I ask you VoD, what do you think of people who owned slaves and supported apartheid in the past VoD?

Homophobia means anything homosexuals want it to mean when it means them getting their own way...

Tommy Monk wrote:Homophobia means anything homosexuals want it to mean when it means them getting their own way...

precisely, they are nothing more than big mouthed screaming kids not getting their own way....

they chose that way, let them deal with it....

Tommy Monk wrote:Homophobia means anything homosexuals want it to mean when it means them getting their own way...

so says GOD...lol

"Homo" is the genus of hominids that includes modern humans and species closely related to them

phobia is a type of anxiety disorder, usually defined as a persistent fear of an object or situation in which the sufferer commits to great lengths in avoiding, typically disproportional to the actual danger posed, often being recognized as irrational.

So basically sic an irrational fear of modern humans hence why you guys are stuck in the past

Vicar of Dibley wrote:homophobia is a made up word to try and make people feel bad that they disagree with gays , i don't fear anyone least of all gays , why the hell would i fear them .

That is fine, I am happy to describe you, HF and Tommy Blooper instead as anti-homosexual or anti-gay.
These words describe you much better and fall along the lines of words like antisemitism, which describes hateful views towards Jews.
So what do you prefer, homophobic or anti-homosexual?

Raggamuffin wrote:People wanting to get married, people not wanting to get married, gay clubs, people objecting to gay clubs, men wanting to be women, women wanting to be men, rainbow this, rainbow that ...

Enough already!

Now that it's all equal, will everyone shut the fuck up about it?

Rags as a poster I think you're brilliant and I respect your views always.
So in this, I also respect what you say but....

Can you imagine being born with a fear? A real deep-rooted fear of not being accepted, getting worse the older you get?
Fear of your parents and family, fear of your friends, fear of the public?

Imagine knowing, that when you reveal the real you, that some of the people you love dearly are going to reject you? That you'll lose friends and actually, much worse, you'll have people pretend that they're ok with you and really you know they find you a bit "yuck"?

That is the reality for many many gay people and what they live with every day, every month of every year, as they grow up.

Now ask yourself; is it any wonder that they want to celebrate when they keep coming across people who not only accept them, but want to embrace them too?

Think about it rags. I know you're not stupid and you understand this, but it's a massive, massive deal to many young and definitely, older, gay men and women alike.

Bump,for rags