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Post by Thorin on Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:49 pm


Humberside Police unlawfully interfered with a man's right to freedom of expression by turning up at his place of work over his allegedly "transphobic" tweets, the High Court has ruled.

Former police officer Harry Miller, 54, who founded the campaign group Fair Cop, said the police's actions had a "substantial chilling effect" on his right to free speech.

Mr Miller, who is from Lincolnshire, claims an officer told him that he had not committed a crime, but that his tweeting was being recorded as a "hate incident".

The College of Policing's guidance defines a hate incident as "any non-crime incident which is perceived, by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender"....


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/14/police-compared-stasi-gestapo-judge-rules-interfered-freedom/


Harry Miller: 'If the police come knocking say: 'Miller v Humberside Police, b****r off''

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/harry-miller-humberside-police-court-3847539

Love this quote:

“Nineteen Eighty-Four is a dystopian novel, not a Police Training Manual.”





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Post by nicko on Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:46 pm

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Post by Maddog on Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:43 pm

Thorin wrote:
Humberside Police unlawfully interfered with a man's right to freedom of expression by turning up at his place of work over his allegedly "transphobic" tweets, the High Court has ruled.

Former police officer Harry Miller, 54, who founded the campaign group Fair Cop, said the police's actions had a "substantial chilling effect" on his right to free speech.

Mr Miller, who is from Lincolnshire, claims an officer told him that he had not committed a crime, but that his tweeting was being recorded as a "hate incident".

The College of Policing's guidance defines a hate incident as "any non-crime incident which is perceived, by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender"....


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/14/police-compared-stasi-gestapo-judge-rules-interfered-freedom/


Harry Miller: 'If the police come knocking say: 'Miller v Humberside Police, b****r off''

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/harry-miller-humberside-police-court-3847539

Love this quote:

“Nineteen Eighty-Four is a dystopian novel, not a Police Training Manual.”





I have issues with the police, but I understand that they are just the enforcement arm of the government. They are not the head of the snake.

This is why libertarians are so vigilant about dumb laws. It creates unnecessary confrontations with the police knocking on doors or otherwise harassing citizens. In the US, and most countries, the police are also armed, ramping up the chance for someone (usually the citizen) getting harmed or killed.

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Post by Thorin on Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:34 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thorin wrote:
Humberside Police unlawfully interfered with a man's right to freedom of expression by turning up at his place of work over his allegedly "transphobic" tweets, the High Court has ruled.

Former police officer Harry Miller, 54, who founded the campaign group Fair Cop, said the police's actions had a "substantial chilling effect" on his right to free speech.

Mr Miller, who is from Lincolnshire, claims an officer told him that he had not committed a crime, but that his tweeting was being recorded as a "hate incident".

The College of Policing's guidance defines a hate incident as "any non-crime incident which is perceived, by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender"....


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/14/police-compared-stasi-gestapo-judge-rules-interfered-freedom/


Harry Miller: 'If the police come knocking say: 'Miller v Humberside Police, b****r off''

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/harry-miller-humberside-police-court-3847539

Love this quote:

“Nineteen Eighty-Four is a dystopian novel, not a Police Training Manual.”





I have issues with the police, but I understand that they are just the enforcement arm of the government. They are not the head of the snake.  

This is why libertarians are so vigilant about dumb laws.  It creates unnecessary confrontations with the police knocking on doors or otherwise harassing citizens. In the US, and most countries, the police are also armed, ramping up the chance for someone (usually the citizen) getting harmed or killed.  

To be fair Mate, this is based on a lobby group trying to dictate to the police what a crime is

This had nothin g to do with the government

I get your point though

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:38 pm

And on this site we have the likes of quill trying to tell us that women have a penis...


lol!

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:57 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:And on this site we have the likes of quill trying to tell us that women have a penis...


lol!

Which is, of course, also free expression.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:00 pm



No... It's just nonsense...



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Post by Thorin on Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:39 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:And on this site we have the likes of quill trying to tell us that women have a penis...


lol!

Which is, of course, also free expression.

Transgender ideology harms women, gays—and especially feminine boys and masculine girls.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-dangerous-denial-of-sex-11581638089?mod=opinion_lead_pos5

https://cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/biologists-wsj-only-two-sexes-male-and-female-there-no-sex-spectrum

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:51 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:And on this site we have the likes of quill trying to tell us that women have a penis...

lol!

Which is, of course, also free expression.

As usual, the intellectually-cornified thomas misquotes someone.  What I said was that the female had a "homologous" organ.  The Oxford Dictionary tells us:

Oxford Dictionary wrote:ho·mol·o·gous
/hōˈmäləɡəs/
adjective

1. having the same relation, relative position, or structure.

The etymology of the word is...

Online Etymology Dictionary wrote:homologous (adj.)
"having the same position, value, structure, etc.," 1650s, from Latinized form of Greek homologos "agreeing, of one mind," from homos "same" (see homo- (1)) + logos "relation, reasoning, computation," related to legein "reckon, select, speak," from PIE root *leg- (1) "to collect, gather," with derivatives meaning "to speak (to 'pick out words')."

Once again, a RW'er fails the intellectual agility test.  You need practice at reasoning, righty's...practice, practice, practice.

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