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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:14 pm

Get voting folks!


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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:21 pm



If you vote "none of the above", and have someone else in mind who you think would be better... then please say who.


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Post by 'Wolfie on Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:44 pm

G'Day


Kylie Minogue  for Britain's next PM  !!!

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Post by Maddog on Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:24 am

Vladimir Putin.

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:06 am

Maddog wrote:Vladimir Putin.  

That's Republican. We're talking about Labour.

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Post by Eilzel on Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:22 am

Kier Starmer and RLB are the only realistic candidates. I like Nandy and Philips more but both need more experience imo.

RLB would destroy any chance of a Labour revival. She is dry, uninspiring and won't stop banging on about socialism.

Starmer will do well if Johnson's government is anything but super successful.

And that last part is key. If the country is mostly doing all right and the government at least seems competent, then elections are usually won by the incumbent.

That's why people shouldn't get too excited with 'Labour's finished'. If Johnson fucks up, he won't get another chance, he won't have his three word mantra to save him in 2024.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:38 am

All the torys have to do is...

1. Deliver on brexit

2. End mass immigration... bring it down to sensible levels of 10's of thousands instead of what is currently 100's of thousands... which is in keeping with the wishes of around 75% of the British people. Plus deport the illegal immigrants and bogus asylum seekers and foreign criminals who have been allowed to stay here with impunity over last couple of decades.

3. Get tough on crime, sort out proper prison sentences, build more prisons.

4. Make sure the nhs is running well with proper funding and cutting out bureaucracy and wasteful spending... end freeloading foreigners health tourism etc.

5. Cuts to all NGOs and quangos, with money saved being used for tax cuts to all via increase in base personal tax allowance threshold and/or reduction in council taxes.

6. Purge public bodys of lefty PC numpties and return to common sense thinking.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:52 am

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"All" they have to do, according to Tommy...

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Post by nicko on Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:24 am

It's not that hard if government puts their mind to it !
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:26 pm

It's what the british people want!

And easy to do if they use some of the £100 billion wasted on quangos...

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Post by JulesV on Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:36 pm

OP, I feel a bit wary of them all. No outright fave stands out yet.

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Post by eddie on Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:20 pm

'Wolfie wrote:G'Day


Kylie Minogue  for Britain's next PM  !!!

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We should be so lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky...

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Post by Vintage on Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:47 pm

None of them really. It seems to me there is no one that can be seen to stand above anyone else as a potential leader in any party.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:09 pm




Sounds like jess Phillips is pulling out...



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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:36 pm

Starmer would be of most concern to the Johnson government. He ran a big organisation (the CPS) a lot better some of the other incumbents and is clearly a man of intelligence and ability, if a bit too lawer-like for many people's taste.

Rebecca Wrong-Daily is just another Momentum groupie who can't understand why the voters didn't fall for all the mythical freebies and giveaways that were going to be paid for by a handful of megarich. Electing her would secure that Labour would be out of office and virtually unelectable for a decade.
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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:49 pm

Wasnt starmer in charge during some of the period where Pakistani Muslims were raping children all over the country with impunity...?



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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:13 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Wasnt starmer in charge during some of the period where Pakistani Muslims were raping children all over the country with impunity...?



He certainly was during the Rotherham incident, but of course the main problem was that evidence was never submitted to the CPS for consideration of prosecution because both the South Yorkshire Police and Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council social services and children's departments deliberately suppressed reports and the results of inquiries on the grounds that any action would inevitably "threaten social cohesion."

I'm not endorsing him, btw, I'm simply saying that of all the contenders he is the one most likely to cause Bojo more than a few headaches.

My own prediction that it will be Long-Bailey, and that she will achieve it because Momentum thugs will be out on the streets again making any dissenters an offer they couldn't refuse...avoidance of the social media trolling and threats, stalking and even bricks through windows that help propel Corbyn into the leadership last time.
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Post by JulesV on Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:21 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Wasnt starmer in charge during some of the period where Pakistani Muslims were raping children all over the country with impunity...?



First off,  the paedo grooming scandal straddles several eras. Various  people and political parties were in charge, it cannot be pinned on just one person. In what capacity was he "in charge" btw.  Who do you think would be the best for labour leader 2190311264  Certainly not in overall charge, he has never been PM.


Secondly there have been several other similar scandals. Especially in the priesthood, in politics, in public schools, childrens homes and in charity organisations. Applying your standards - there are a lot of culpable people out there.


Selectively homing in on the people/demographic groups you dislike while ignoring the rest is not the way to conduct discussions.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:28 pm

I think Nandy would suit labour's identity politics style better... she would look like a victim and make boris look like a nasty big bully...


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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:29 pm

No jules... it was happening under labour from 1997 to 2010...



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Post by JulesV on Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:43 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:No jules... it was happening under labour

from 1997 to 2010...


Strange that you are so extremely specific with the dates during which this scandal happened.
Did you have a stopwatch that recorded the very first incident which miraculously coincided with when labour got into power and the very last incident  miraculously ended when labour lost power?

My oh my what an incredible coincidence.
Yet people keep saying it's still happening even now, ten years into tory rule.


Let me summarise your allegations, tommy monk "A long, tall pile of  horse shit."

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:50 pm

The reports tell the story...



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