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Post by Andy on Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:26 pm

According to a book due out next week, written anonymously by a high ranking White House insider, he certainly is mentally incapacitated.

https://mol.im/a/7665031

As if this comes as a shock.


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Post by Lurker on Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:08 pm

Trump has always been demented. He is a pathetic human being. He has zero redeeming social value whatsoever.

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Post by Lurker on Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:28 pm

Trump should be put in a strait jacket and locked in a rubber room for the rest of his life.

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Post by nicko on Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:04 pm

It should read "does Lurker have OCD" ? The answer is a resounding YES !
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Post by Original Quill on Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:52 pm

According to the Mayo Clinic, renowned medical and research facility, dementia is characterized by:

Dementia symptoms vary depending on the cause, but common signs and symptoms include:

Cognitive changes

-Memory loss, which is usually noticed by a spouse or someone else
-Difficulty communicating or finding words
-Difficulty with visual and spatial abilities, such as getting lost while driving
-Difficulty reasoning or problem-solving
-Difficulty handling complex tasks
-Difficulty with planning and organizing
-Difficulty with coordination and motor functions
-Confusion and disorientation

Psychological changes

-Personality changes
-Depression
-Anxiety
-Inappropriate behavior
-Paranoia
-Agitation
-Hallucinations

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/dementia/symptoms-causes/syc-20352013

Almost all of these symptoms and signs have been witnessed in Trump.  He has difficulty with words (origins/oranges), visual and spacial senses (where is the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson), reasoning and complex tasks (Kim Jong Un is my friend), planning and organizing (let's withdraw from Syria), and confusion and disorientation (withholding funds until another grants "a favor" is not a quid pro quo; Russia is our friend).

We certainly have witnessed inappropriate behavior in him (pussy-grabbing), and depression, anxiety, and agitation maybe contributing to his ill-temper.  He has had hallucinations (Muslims in New Jersey cheering on 9/11; largest presidential inauguration ever); and paranoia (Nancy Pelosi is out to get us).

If the Mayo Clinic is providing us with a check-list for dementia, we have our answer.

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Post by eddie on Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:29 pm

Quill, if he has dementia you’d know about it. Dementia is very obvious.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:01 pm

Don't know about dementia, but he doesn't seem like the president of the United States. I've always seen the PUSA as someone who's constantly in high-level meetings that are always meaningful to some group of people.

Trump spends so much time attacking his foes on Twitter, he comes across as an angry shut-in with unlimited free time.

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Post by eddie on Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:16 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Don't know about dementia, but he doesn't seem like the president of the United States. I've always seen the PUSA as someone who's constantly in high-level meetings that are always meaningful to some group of people.

Trump spends so much time attacking his foes on Twitter, he comes across as an angry shut-in with unlimited free time.

When you say “PUSA” I see the word “PUS”... Does Trump have Dementia? 2190311264

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:18 pm

eddie wrote:Quill, if he has dementia you’d know about it. Dementia is very obvious.

I only apply the formula provided by the Mayo Clinic. After all, it is the most advanced research clinic in the nation, excepting maybe Johns Hopkins University Medical Clinic. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/

We make of our president something of a deity. I think we get carried away with name and status in this country. That, in turn, affects the opinions of people off-shore who are less close to the issue, and follow our lead.

I'm of the opinion that Trump is exhibiting signs of dementia, but we don't want to believe it because that would take away his agency as a rational person. Those 'true-believers' who favor his politics, want to turn him into a hero. They wouldn't want to detract from his exploits by saying he isn't all there.

But, even those who disfavor his politics don't want to take away his agency because they don't want to render him blameless. It's because they have visions of prosecuting him after he leaves office. To take away his agency would be to excuse him of his crimes...like that heinous killer who gets a free ride on an insanity defense.

Either way, that colors the opinion of Trump and any speculation about his dementia.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:23 pm

eddie wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:Don't know about dementia, but he doesn't seem like the president of the United States. I've always seen the PUSA as someone who's constantly in high-level meetings that are always meaningful to some group of people.

Trump spends so much time attacking his foes on Twitter, he comes across as an angry shut-in with unlimited free time.

When you say “PUSA” I see the word “PUS”... Does Trump have Dementia? 2190311264

I don't like that acronym either, makes me think of a cross between a puma and a lady's coot.

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Post by Maddog on Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:30 pm

So use POTUS. I've never even seen PUSA before. Shocked

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:42 pm

Maddog wrote:So use POTUS. I've never even seen PUSA before. Shocked  

Movin' to the country, gonna eat me a lot of peaches? No? Whatever.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:22 pm

Another opinion, beyond the four of us:



Farron Cousins is the executive editor of The Trial Lawyer magazine and a contributing writer at DeSmogBlog.com. He is the co-host / guest host for Ring of Fire Radio. His writings have appeared on Alternet, Truthout, and The Huffington Post. Farron received his bachelor's degree in Political Science from the University of West Florida in 2005 and became a member of American MENSA in 2009. Follow him on Twitter @farronbalanced

https://trofire.com/2019/04/14/signs-of-trumps-dementia-are-clear-as-day-psychologist-warns/


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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:45 pm

Re: Dr. John Gartner's, USA Today Op-Ed article.

"Another prominent psychologist has come forward to warn the public about the degenerative state of Donald Trump’s brain. This time it is Dr. John Gartner who believes that the recent actions of the President and his continuously slurring speech patterns are evidence of a severe problem, possibly early dementia or even Alzheimer’s, and that a full comprehensive exam should be done to get to the truth. "

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Well folks, another day and another psychologist warning us that Donald Trump is suffering from some form of mental degeneration. We have psychologist John Gardner who is a former assistant professor at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. He’s now just a psychologist, but Dr. Gardner tells us in a new op-ed from USA Today, and I encourage everybody to read it, follow the link in the description of the video here, but nonetheless, he tells us that the red flags for Donald Trump’s mental stability are waving wildly, is what he says. You don’t even have to be a doctor to recognize what’s happening with the president. Now, this hot bed is not just an attack saying, oh, Donald Trump’s nuts. He’s crazy. No, this is actually a more nuanced look into what’s happening with the president using his own behavior as examples. Here’s one thing he points out that you know recently when he said Tim Apple instead of a Tim Cook, when he confused Paradise, California and call it pleasure California, things like that. Those are gaps for the most part, but there’s other gaps that the president commits that are actually symptoms. Case in point recently when he said that his father was from Germany, he said it multiple times and that single interview, that’s not a gaff. That is a symptom.

When he kept trying to say the word origins and said oranges and it kind of kind of stopped himself and he said the oranges, the orange is of it, that that was one of the biggest indicators because you could tell when you watch that clip, and this is what Gardner talks about here, you could tell he knew it was wrong, but for the life of him, his brain couldn’t get that correct word. That’s why he kind of paused and then then tried to say it again but failed to do so. That’s not an attack on the president that that is what happened there and that’s what’s so different about this piece by Gardner is that it’s not looking to make fun of him or insult him or tell us he’s an idiot. It’s looking at it from a purely diagnostic point of view.

Those are symptoms, symptoms of dementia, symptoms of Alzheimer’s, but they are symptoms and that is actually what psychologists use to determine how far along someone is. Now we do know when Donald Trump underwent his uh, health assessment from Dr Ronnie Jackson, uh, according to, to garner here, they gave him the Montreal cognitive assessment and Donald Trump passed. Do you know what that test involves? He has to identify a camel, a clock, and recite three numbers backwards. That’s it. If you pass that, you do not have full blown dementia. So Trump, at the time, this was 2008, did not have full blown dementia because he knew what a camel was and he knew what a clock look like, what’s been over a year.

And that’s exactly what Gardner tells us. Let me read some of this here. Dementia, international dementia care international says a person may start to mix up relationships and generations in the second stage of dementia. That is specifically talking about Trump repeatedly claiming that his father came from Germany in Alzheimer’s as language skills deteriorate, we see two types of telltale speech disorders or pair of phases. The first one is for Namic parasthesia, and that’s where words like big league become bigly. They run together and he also points out Donald Trump’s recent, the CPAC speech for the president kept doing that with words, just running them together and making a single new word. There’s art gaffes their symptoms, but the oranges thing, oranges versus origins, that was kind of the, the limit, right? At that point, they could tell something was wrong, but more importantly at that point, and go back and watch the video and you’ll see Trump could tell something was wrong. He didn’t know the word, but he knew that he didn’t say the correct one. That is a sign that, yeah, he still has enough brain to understand that his brain’s not working properly. The question is, does the rest of the American public so have enough brain to understand that his isn’t working properly? Okay.

https://trofire.com/2019/04/14/signs-of-trumps-dementia-are-clear-as-day-psychologist-warns/

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Post by 'Wolfie on Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:35 am

Does Trump have Dementia? 3724572420

It has long been obvious that Donnie the Dumpster is "as mad as a meat axe"...

Those hardcore self-flagelating Repub' supporters who might dare to claim otherwise are simply in some kind of self-imposed and self-defeating denial..

Including those 2.7 supporters who occasionally visit NF (and, let's face it ==  no 'Dumpster supporters could ever be accused of playing with a full deck..).

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Post by Lurker on Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:26 pm

TRUMP GIVES DEMENTIA A BAD NAME..

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:56 pm

Lurker wrote:TRUMP GIVES DEMENTIA A BAD NAME..

If you had faced the horrible experience of having to deal with this devastating disease in your own family, perhaps you would think twice before turning it into one of your "Republican rants."
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Post by Lurker on Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:07 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
Lurker wrote:TRUMP GIVES DEMENTIA A BAD NAME..

If you had faced the horrible experience of having to deal with this devastating disease in your own family, perhaps you would think twice before turning it into one of your  "Republican rants."


I have had that experience and I was in no way making light of dementia.

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Post by eddie on Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:45 pm

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Lurker wrote:TRUMP GIVES DEMENTIA A BAD NAME..

If you had faced the horrible experience of having to deal with this devastating disease in your own family, perhaps you would think twice before turning it into one of your  "Republican rants."


I have had that experience and I was in no way making light of dementia.

So you think he has dementia? If so, you should feel a somewhat slight repentance at your hounding of him then?

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Post by Lurker on Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:35 pm

he's still an asshole

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Post by eddie on Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:36 pm

Lurker wrote:he's still an asshole

But if he has dementia, can he be responsible for his words and actions?

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:08 am

eddie wrote:
Lurker wrote:he's still an asshole

But if he has dementia, can he be responsible for his words and actions?

That's the big question. Those who support him, don't want his exploits to be washed away by dementia. Those who want to see him in an orange jump suit, don't want his crimes to be washed away by an insanity defense.

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Post by Lurker on Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:23 pm

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/2/1908694/-It-s-degenerative-dementia-as-well-as-malignant-narcissism-And-the-public-tipping-point-is-coming


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Post by nicko on Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:46 pm

He just gave the ok to get rid of a Terrorist who has been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and British Soldiers and Civilians, can't be all bad. But I suppose some here won't agree !
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nicko wrote:He just gave the ok to get rid of a Terrorist  who has been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and British Soldiers and Civilians, can't be all bad. But I suppose some here won't agree !

We'll see what happens after Iran launches their nuclear bombs.

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nicko wrote:He just gave the ok to get rid of a Terrorist  who has been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and British Soldiers and Civilians, can't be all bad. But I suppose some here won't agree !

What is his endgame? Does he intend to take over Iran, like Puerto Rico? It's half way round the world; how does he defend a vassal state from the other 1.5-billion Muslims?

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Post by nicko on Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:10 pm

Lurker They don't have any Nuclear Bombs, Yet ! And if they did and launched them it's good bye Iran !
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Post by eddie on Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:18 pm

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Lurker wrote:he's still an asshole

But if he has dementia, can he be responsible for his words and actions?

That's the big question.  Those who support him, don't want his exploits to be washed away by dementia.  Those who want to see him in an orange jump suit, don't want his crimes to be washed away by an insanity defense.

Well, if he truly has dementia then it won’t be a “defence” will it? It’ll be a reason.

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:21 pm

nicko wrote: Lurker They don't have any Nuclear Bombs, Yet ! And if they did and launched them it's good bye Iran !

Now that Trump has released the Iranians from the obligation of not going nuclear, it's only a matter of time before they have a nuclear device.

Today, nuclear means deterrence. Once a nation reaches the status of mutually assured destruction, it's position at the table is greatly enhanced. Mutually assured destruction means everyone gets their 'good-bye's' if any one of them is provoked...especially, Israel.

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Post by gelico on Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:23 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Don't know about dementia, but he doesn't seem like the president of the United States. I've always seen the PUSA as someone who's constantly in high-level meetings that are always meaningful to some group of people.

Trump spends so much time attacking his foes on Twitter, he comes across as an angry shut-in with unlimited free time.





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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:23 pm

eddie wrote:
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eddie wrote:
Lurker wrote:he's still an asshole

But if he has dementia, can he be responsible for his words and actions?

That's the big question.  Those who support him, don't want his exploits to be washed away by dementia.  Those who want to see him in an orange jump suit, don't want his crimes to be washed away by an insanity defense.

Well, if he truly has dementia then it won’t be a “defence” will it? It’ll be a reason.

I think what Quill is driving at, perhaps, is -- how disturbing is it that, if Trump has dementia, some 30 million-plus Americans are so drawn to the products of this demented mind?

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:27 pm

eddie wrote:
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That's the big question.  Those who support him, don't want his exploits to be washed away by dementia.  Those who want to see him in an orange jump suit, don't want his crimes to be washed away by an insanity defense.

Well, if he truly has dementia then it won’t be a “defence” will it? It’ll be a reason.

What is the difference between a legal defense and dementia? Diminished mental capacity is always a defense. If he can claim he knew naught of the consequences of his actions, he gets off.

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:40 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
eddie wrote:

Well, if he truly has dementia then it won’t be a “defence” will it? It’ll be a reason.

I think what Quill is driving at, perhaps, is -- how disturbing is it that, if Trump has dementia, some 30 million-plus Americans are so drawn to the products of this demented mind?

Certainly so. But the issue of dementia negatively affects the political aspirations of both the Left and the Right. If Trump's lawyers prove any sort of diminished capacity at any trial subsequent to leaving office, it's a form of escape for Trump.

On the other hand, if Trump's core supporters are confronted with proven allegations of diminished capacity, it will mean they will have to drop the signs and sneak off in shame. Everything the supporters faithfully followed was the dogma of a nut case.

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Latest Poll: 52% of voters now want the president removed from office. Not just impeached...but removed from office.

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