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Post by Guest Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:14 pm

Author's work ironically offers blueprint on how to create a world with fewer mass shooters

Whitcoulls, a large New Zealand bookstore, has responded to the Christchurch massacre by banning the work of clinical psychologist Jordan B. Peterson.

The author of “12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos” literally has a chapter that covers the dark psychology of mass shooters — and how to create a world with fewer of them — but his words will no longer be found on store shelves.

Independent journalist Tim Pool shared an email by the company Thursday, which described a decision “made in light of some extremely disturbing material being circulated prior, during and after the Christchurch attacks.”

“As a business which takes our responsibilities to our communities very seriously, we believe it would be wrong to support the author at this time,” the email purportedly said.

The statement is ironic, given that the University of Toronto professor’s book repeatedly urges readers to live a virtuous life guided by truth.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/mar/21/jordan-b-petersons-12-rules-for-life-pulled-from-n/

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:41 pm

phildidge wrote:Author's work ironically offers blueprint on how to create a world with fewer mass shooters

Whitcoulls, a large New Zealand bookstore, has responded to the Christchurch massacre by banning the work of clinical psychologist Jordan B. Peterson.

The author of “12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos” literally has a chapter that covers the dark psychology of mass shooters — and how to create a world with fewer of them — but his words will no longer be found on store shelves.

Independent journalist Tim Pool shared an email by the company Thursday, which described a decision “made in light of some extremely disturbing material being circulated prior, during and after the Christchurch attacks.”

“As a business which takes our responsibilities to our communities very seriously, we believe it would be wrong to support the author at this time,” the email purportedly said.

The statement is ironic, given that the University of Toronto professor’s book repeatedly urges readers to live a virtuous life guided by truth.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/mar/21/jordan-b-petersons-12-rules-for-life-pulled-from-n/

The Woke Left are the new Ayatollahs and Jordan Peterson is their Salman Rushdie. He is a blasphemer. He has refused to mind the growing list of ‘woke’ shibboleths and as a result must be cast out, shunned, banned, marginalised. The only surprise is that some Antifa maniac hasn’t put a bounty on his head – yet.

News reaches us that a leading book store in New Zealand has stopped selling Jordan Peterson’s books. In a statement to customers, retailer Whitcoulis said:
Unfortunately 12 Rules For Life is currently . unavailable, which is a decision that Whitcoulls has made in light of some extremely disturbing material being circulated prior, during and after the Christchurch attacks. As a business which takes our responsibilities to our communities very seriously, we believe it would be wrong to support the author at this time.

HAVE THEY LOST THEIR FUCKING MINDS!?

An Eco-Nazi kills people so they ban a book as innocuous – and as best-selling – as Dale Carnegie’s “How To WIn Friends…” because they author stands against demands by the Woke-Left to:

[*]Restrict freedom of speech and academic inquiry

[*]Compel the use of certain speech demanded by strident Transgender activists

[*]Deny difference between men and women

He also appears to push their buttons because he talks about personal responsibility and about making sure you get your own life in order before embarking on a quest for “social justice” as nebulously framed by the Instagram generation.

The ridiculous thing is that Jordan Peterson has said very little on the subject of Islam. It’s just not one of his big topics.
The pretext for the banning – which actually follows from a score-settling vendetta by the SJW Woke Left against liberals, conservatives, secularists, free-thinkers, and anyone who refuses to follow ‘woke’ prescriptions – is that one of Peterson’s fans was wearing a “I’m A Proud Islamaphobe” (sic) t-shirt and appeared in a photo gallery of people during a meet-and-greet.

As I spoke about in a post a few days ago about the new effort to codify Islamophobia, Islam is a set of beliefs. Those beliefs are put into action. People have a right to oppose those beliefs and, especially, those beliefs in action. Indeed, the working document on Islamophobia itself states that:
Let us be clear, the aim of establishing a working definition of Islamophobia has neither been motivated by, nor is intended to curtail, free speech or criticism of Islam as a religion. Evidence read and heard by the group clearly delineated between the desirability of criticism, debate and free discussion of Islam as a religion – by Muslims and non-Muslim participants in the inquiry – and the victimisation of Muslims through the targeting of expressions of Muslimness to deny or impair their fundamental freedoms and human rights.

The t-shirt being worn, not by Peterson, but by a random fan, clearly passes this test. The text refers to a litany of things the wearer finds problematic in Islam, including antisemitism, homophobia, misogyny, female genital mutilation, gender segregation, killing of apostates, and justifying terrorism. Now, this is quite frank, as sloganeering t-shirts usually are, but this text marks this man out as a follower of Richard Dawkins or of Sam Harris rather than an Eco-Nazi. Have we got to the point where strident secularism and opposition to the common practices in almost all Islamic countries is now beyond the pale? Should we ban the National Secular Society? Who next will the Ayatollah’s of Wokeness have in their sights?

We have reached a point where criticising Ilhan Omar’s antisemitism is colluding with terrorism, where holding classical liberal or secularist views is colluding with terrorism, where being a conservative, or even  a conservative troll, is colluding with terrorism. Did any of the Woke-Left decry the blu-ray release of The Life of Brian and suggest that it might have been responsible for the mass murder of Catholics at prayer a few weeks before the Christchurch attack? Was the massacre of Catholics a Left ,or even Liberal, talking point?

There are 50 Muslim-majority countries in the world containing 1.8 billion people. That is almost a quarter of the world’s population. The values, culture – both social and political – and beliefs of the people in these countries differs radically from Western society, but globalisation brings us in to greater and greater contact, and indeed in the more pluralist West, many of our friends and neighbours are Muslim. We’re not going to stop talking about Islam.

And no maniac is going to be dissuaded from planting a bomb or firing a gun because you’ve banned a self-help book by a non-woke author any more than banning the Quran would help defeat ISIS.

Meanwhile, Whitcoulis continues to sell Mein Kampf and books on doomsday climate change. Now there’s the combination that actually represents the terrorist’s eco-Nazi manifesto.

The Commandments of Woke are fast becoming the de facto living bible of 21st century street preachers, replete with cries of “(Career) Death to the Blasphemers!”.

And people are listening.
 
[*] It never ceases to amaze me that the woke left deny that there are innate differences between men and women and insist these are all socially constructed, by then insist that trans-people are innately the gender they were not born as. So which is it? The question is open for debate, but of course the Woke-Left won’t allow it.

http://hurryupharry.org/2019/03/22/the-ayatollah-is-woken/

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Post by veya_victaous Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:56 am

LOL
Leave the Hobbits alone you Bully tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue

they are one of the most progressive societies on earth 
they don't need Peterson's Rubbish
Because it is not relevant to their society, it could only cause trouble. as it paints the world like America which it is not.
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:59 am

veya_victaous wrote:LOL
Leave the Hobbits alone you Bully tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue

they are one of the most progressive societies on earth 
they don't need Peterson's Rubbish
Because it is not relevant to their society, it could only cause trouble. as it paints the world like America which it is not.


Its a self help book Veya

This is simple ridiculous on every level

Its not down for you to say or decide what is relevant for people.

The reality is this was a rash and irrational reaction

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Post by veya_victaous Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:08 am

nah it couldn't help a Hobbit... or an Aussie for that matter

Why does Global Media Keep trying to force Peterson down our throats?
he's book is shit it not really helpful at all.
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:23 am

veya_victaous wrote:nah it couldn't help a Hobbit... or an Aussie for that matter

Why does Global Media Keep trying to force Peterson down our throats?
he's book is shit it not really helpful at all.

Again you do not speak for everyone and neither should you decide for people

You have never read the book, so how can you say how good or bad it is?

Again New Zealand is slipping down a slippery slope of authoritarianism

Again this is a self help book. So the reaction to ban this. Is ridiculous

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Post by veya_victaous Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:38 am

Why does Global Media Keep trying to force Peterson down our throats?

NZ has not banned it a Store decided to not sell it like it doesn't sell thousands of titles.

There are Thousands upon thousands of self help books ... including thousands that are not sold at this store.
Why does this one Cult like book make any difference?

Why is this one a slippery slope to Authoritarianism?

If anything it is telling global media to Take it Jordan Petersons and other trouble makers and Shove it up it's arse
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:47 am

veya_victaous wrote:Why does Global Media Keep trying to force Peterson down our throats?

NZ has not banned it a Store decided to not sell it like it doesn't sell thousands of titles.

There are Thousands upon thousands of self help books ... including thousands that are not sold at this store.
Why does this one Cult like book make any difference?

Why is this one a slippery slope to Authoritarianism?

If anything it is telling global media to Take it Jordan Petersons and other trouble makers and Shove it up it's arse

Mainly as he is a popular figure

I certainly do not agree with all his views, but they are thought provoking

There was no valid reason to ban this and its a silly reaction by the book store chain

The fact you think censurship is fine, reeks of an authoritarian nature

This will in the end hurt the book store more, if they then lose many customers over this

You reep what you sow

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Post by veya_victaous Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:55 am

I Support Skynet Suspect Suspect Suspect

Your argument seems a bit pedestrian considering my position  Wink
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:57 am

veya_victaous wrote:I Support Skynet Suspect Suspect Suspect

Your argument seems a bit pedestrian considering my position  Wink

Okay, so you support something that ends up wanting to eliminate all humans scratch

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:59 am

Catch you later Veya, a have work to do

Laughing

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Post by veya_victaous Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:10 am

phildidge wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:I Support Skynet Suspect Suspect Suspect

Your argument seems a bit pedestrian considering my position  Wink

Okay, so you support something that ends up wanting to eliminate all humans  scratch

Nah that's easy to solve (such an 80's/90's programmers mistake) we have already solved it the vast majority of learning systems.
No Zero Sum Statements

Skynet in terminator was told to 'end all human suffering' which means reduce it to zero and because Suffering is part of life, the only way to achieve zero suffering in humans is for there to be no humans.

if it had been told to 'reduce suffering among humans to minimal level' it would never have decided to do that. Wink
Problem solved


And a real Skynet would be smarter than the one in terminator. early AI prototypes are already being taught Humanity. this will more than likely end up in any more advance AI that comes later (we don't do things from scratch very often any more, it will definitely copy and pasted.... if they get one that works well)
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